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sexy Super Duty... Sweet line up of trucks too
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Dang, forget to tell ya that its screaming for bigger meats. Like yesterday.

How long before that thing sees dirt, real dirt?
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why do people buy an F250.. then get a 5.4? or any gas motor for that matter.

i never understood, i think you can get a 4.6 in an F250 too?
*The gas engines are much more affordable, especially when buying new.
*The gas engines are much cheaper to maintain.
*The gas engines are NOT much less economical, especially compared to the 6.4L. For example, if fuel costs $2.39/gal it costs me ~ $0.14/mile. Add in the 7 quarts of oil [$20] the in the 5.4L crancase holds, the FL820s filter [$4] and air filter FA-1883 [$18] and see how the cost per mile goes up. The new 6.4L doesn't get the mileage numbers diesels of yesterday got. And now with diesel generally being more expensive than unleaded, it takes longer (if ever) to recover the initial buy-in. Then consider the 15 quarts of oil it needs, the FL2016 oil filter [$18], the FD-4609 fuel & water seperator kit [$46], and the FA-1886 air filter [$50], and the actual cost per mile is not as low as many people think. When I bought my 2009, checking that diesel engine check-box added about $7000 onto the truck.
*The gas engines will get the job done.


With that said, I will say this.
*The diesel has more torque.
*Getting diesel at a truck stop is awesome!



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Winks, your F250 looks awesome. Truth be told I like that bodystyle over my '09. Which axle ratio does it have?
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nice truck. boo on not having the towing mirrors though.. can honestly say i hated trying to use that mirror style backing up the work truck today. but nonetheless wicked nice. oh and love the color
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Nice man, thats practically my dream lineup. Throw in a black 02 Mustang Cobra and change that 250 to a diesel, and it would be my dream line up
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Very nice John. So when is the Bronco getting painted DSG?
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Dang, forget to tell ya that its screaming for bigger meats. Like yesterday.

How long before that thing sees dirt, real dirt?
Bigger meats are not going to be on for a while, these tires still have a bit of life, while my wallet... well there's no life to it. I'll take it down the local trails some time soon, there's no pine striping down the sides of this truck and I'm hoping to keep it that way.

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*The gas engines are much more affordable, especially when buying new.
*The gas engines are much cheaper to maintain.
*The gas engines are NOT much less economical, especially compared to the 6.4L. For example, if fuel costs $2.39/gal it costs me ~ $0.14/mile. Add in the 7 quarts of oil [$20] the in the 5.4L crancase holds, the FL820s filter [$4] and air filter FA-1883 [$18] and see how the cost per mile goes up. The new 6.4L doesn't get the mileage numbers diesels of yesterday got. And now with diesel generally being more expensive than unleaded, it takes longer (if ever) to recover the initial buy-in. Then consider the 15 quarts of oil it needs, the FL2016 oil filter [$18], the FD-4609 fuel & water seperator kit [$46], and the FA-1886 air filter [$50], and the actual cost per mile is not as low as many people think. When I bought my 2009, checking that diesel engine check-box added about $7000 onto the truck.
*The gas engines will get the job done.


With that said, I will say this.
*The diesel has more torque.
*Getting diesel at a truck stop is awesome!



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Winks, your F250 looks awesome. Truth be told I like that bodystyle over my '09. Which axle ratio does it have?
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think it's got 3:73 w/LS? I've got to go and take a look

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Nice man, thats practically my dream lineup. Throw in a black 02 Mustang Cobra and change that 250 to a diesel, and it would be my dream line up
How bout if I throw in a '98 Escort and an '05 Liberty?

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Very nice John. So when is the Bronco getting painted DSG?
I don't know, when somebody else owns it? It may be going to the curb with a for sale sign. I don't know yet, It's got so many problems, but I love that big ol' brick.
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looks good John!

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*The gas engines are much more affordable, especially when buying new.
*The gas engines are much cheaper to maintain.
*The gas engines are NOT much less economical, especially compared to the 6.4L. For example, if fuel costs $2.39/gal it costs me ~ $0.14/mile. Add in the 7 quarts of oil [$20] the in the 5.4L crancase holds, the FL820s filter [$4] and air filter FA-1883 [$18] and see how the cost per mile goes up. The new 6.4L doesn't get the mileage numbers diesels of yesterday got. And now with diesel generally being more expensive than unleaded, it takes longer (if ever) to recover the initial buy-in. Then consider the 15 quarts of oil it needs, the FL2016 oil filter [$18], the FD-4609 fuel & water seperator kit [$46], and the FA-1886 air filter [$50], and the actual cost per mile is not as low as many people think. When I bought my 2009, checking that diesel engine check-box added about $7000 onto the truck.
*The gas engines will get the job done.


With that said, I will say this.
*The diesel has more torque.
*Getting diesel at a truck stop is awesome!



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Winks, your F250 looks awesome. Truth be told I like that bodystyle over my '09. Which axle ratio does it have?
I agree, sometimes i wish I would have got a f250 only because of the front axle, able to lift it and the stability of a heavier truck. Would be a bit overkill though. btw i cant believe you said that! i love the 09s!
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*The gas engines are much more affordable, especially when buying new.
*The gas engines are much cheaper to maintain.
*The gas engines are NOT much less economical, especially compared to the 6.4L. For example, if fuel costs $2.39/gal it costs me ~ $0.14/mile. Add in the 7 quarts of oil [$20] the in the 5.4L crancase holds, the FL820s filter [$4] and air filter FA-1883 [$18] and see how the cost per mile goes up. The new 6.4L doesn't get the mileage numbers diesels of yesterday got. And now with diesel generally being more expensive than unleaded, it takes longer (if ever) to recover the initial buy-in. Then consider the 15 quarts of oil it needs, the FL2016 oil filter [$18], the FD-4609 fuel & water seperator kit [$46], and the FA-1886 air filter [$50], and the actual cost per mile is not as low as many people think. When I bought my 2009, checking that diesel engine check-box added about $7000 onto the truck.
*The gas engines will get the job done.


With that said, I will say this.
*The diesel has more torque.
*Getting diesel at a truck stop is awesome!



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Winks, your F250 looks awesome. Truth be told I like that bodystyle over my '09. Which axle ratio does it have?


i think i just got owned. ha
a diesel does get better fuel mileage while hauling too.

i want to say mid 03? 02? and up were D60 fronts. Maybe thats just the diesel?

I built an 09 too and was amazed a how fast the price jumped. that truck would have a 6.0 in it though so not all of your logic is valid and I'll most likely be getting a 7.3 which will be even cheaper.

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I built an 09 too and was amazed a how fast the price jumped. that truck would have a 6.0 in it though so not all of your logic is valid and I'll most likely be getting a 7.3 which will be even cheaper.
Yeah, your right! The 6.0L diesels in Winks body style usually get better mileage than the 6.4L and generally feel more "punchy" off the line, mostly due to emissions standards the new diesels have to deal with. Many people complain about the 6.0L, not so much about the power but about the reliability issues. On the other hand one of my buddies who owned one never had a problem.

Another one of my friends just bought a '09 F250 with the 6.4L and TorqueShift automatic. I drove it the other day and you can quickly tell it has nearly double the torque of my '09 F250 5.4L. I asked him what kind of mileage he's been getting out of his new 6.4L and he said, "about 13.5" I get very similar mileage out of my truck. But again, I only have roughly half the torque on tap that he does...
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yep.. powaaaa! haha

I know a few people with 6.0s and dont have problems.. but i also know people that have non stop problems. thats why i'll be getting a 7.3 if i get a PSD.
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looks great John... so is this Jen's DD
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Thanks Billy, it's not Jen's DD, she'll be driving the 05 Liberty mostly. This is mainly for towing and driving every once in a while to work.
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Nice man. I like it, but I don't think I'd be happy with a SD without a diesel engine in it even with what all was said above. I just want a diesel. Any way, I like the truck.
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Thanks Mike. We did our research before we looked into them and knew we only needed a gasser. This truck makes me want to double lift the Ranger and throw on some bigger tires. However, I don't want to worry about breaking **** with the smaller axles, and I don't have the ability to do a SAS here on my own.
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I'd just Like to know where you got the headlights for the Ranger? Those look real nice. Also, I'm new to this site and new to rangers, what the heck does DSG mean? haha
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Thanks, got them off a member here, typically they are bought off of ebay, just check out 01+ black headlights. DSG means Dark Shadow Gray, it's Ford's gunmetal color.

Welcome to the site, enjoy your stay.
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I asked but you didn't say. Which transmission does it have?
I'm curious because I don't remember if the torqueshift came on the 5.4L or not?
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I love my diesel. Its way over kill for the towing I do but.

#1 - I got a awesome deal
#2 - Better Mileage
#3 - I don't drive it everyday
#4 - It should last a long *** time!
#5 - Who don't like the sound
#6 - Power

I am going to have to keep this truck for atleast 10 years. So I know right now I have no use for a diesel except for awesome mileage but who knows, I could have a nice jeep, a beater truck, a camper in a couple years ya know? Atleast I know I do not need ot buy a new truck just to buy something heavy.
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I asked but you didn't say. Which transmission does it have?
I'm curious because I don't remember if the torqueshift came on the 5.4L or not?
Sorry, must have missed that one. I have no idea what transmission is in my F250. I tried looking up the build sheet which Trent posted up this week in a different thread, but my VIN isn't working.
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Starting in 2005, Ford began using the Torque Shift transmission. As far as I know, the Torque Shift is used behind all the engines. I'm about 90% sure on this one.

The only drivetrain difference on a '05+ 5.4L Super Duty is the rear differential. It has a 2-pinion design vs the 3-pinion design on the V10 and diesel engine. Also, the V10 with factory 4.30 ring and pinion got a Super 60 front axle. I don't think even the diesel engine got the Super 60 because the only available ratio was/is 3.73. The dual rear wheel trucks could be equiped with the Tow Boss package which netted a diesel engine, the Torque Shift automatic, and 4.30 ring and pinions. These may very well have the Super 60 as well, but I'm not sure. Oh, and the DRW trucks got a Dana 80 rear axle vs the Ford 10.5" in all SRW trucks.

Everything else should be the same no matter the engine. But knowing Ford, there are probably trucks built that defy these general guidelines.
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I think it does have the torque shift, I just can't remember. I think I left the Ford dealer half-way through the 04 model year...
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