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The Volt (non Ford)

So a former student from Missouri S&T works at GM now and works on the new Volt. We have our career fair tomorrow, so he drove it down to show us.

I'm sure a few of you have read about this thing. But I got a lot of info, some even that you guys don't know about.

So it has a gas motor driving the generator, and 2 electric motors, one running the front wheel and one charging the battery.

There is no mechanical drive, all electric. It has a very intricate clutch sytem.

0-60 in under 9 seconds. 3700lbs. 40 mpg avg. He drove it from Michigan to Missouri on one charge.

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I like it!
 
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I do too, $40K but you get $3,250 back after you do your taxes
 
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I'd rather have a Golf TDI
 
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I'd rather have a Golf TDI
Same here!
 
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I like it, but they need to de-homo-fy the interior a bit. Otherwise I think that its a good step in the right direction. Maybe Ford should be smart and whip out an electric F150 :)
 
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I'm not buying any new vehicle, but I haven't really read about new cars lately.

I'll stick with my 70's trucks
 
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I like it, but they need to de-homo-fy the interior a bit. Otherwise I think that its a good step in the right direction. Maybe Ford should be smart and whip out an electric F150 :)
The guy joked about the interior a bit, the dash will not be smooth like in his, they'll make it textured.

But those door inserts aren't as crazy as the lime green ones that will be offered.

The center section of the dash will be color matched as far as I know
 
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40 MPG average? thats really not that great. there are non hybrid gas vehicles getting close to that and TDI diesels that get better than that and are faster. its a neat idea though.
 
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Originally Posted by 01_ranger_4x4
40 MPG average? thats really not that great. there are non hybrid gas vehicles getting close to that and TDI diesels that get better than that and are faster. its a neat idea though.
40 mpg from the gas motor on a 3700 lb car charging an over 100 cell lithium ion battery.

Not awesome, but not bad either
 
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Originally Posted by 01_ranger_4x4
40 MPG average? thats really not that great. there are non hybrid gas vehicles getting close to that and TDI diesels that get better than that and are faster. its a neat idea though.
Dude under 40 miles it is all electric.
With fully charged batteries, enough electrical energy will be stored to power the Volt up to 40 miles (64 km), a distance longer than the daily commute for 75% of Americans,[5] whose average commute is 33 miles (53 km).[6] After 40 miles (64 km), a small 4-cylinder internal combustion engine using premium-grade[7] gasoline creates electricity on-board using a 55 kW (74 hp) generator to extend the Volt's range to more than 300 miles (483 km).
Also it will have a 7500$ tax rebate.


To be honest though, if you're running off the electrical grid you're really just usually using coal or gasoline. The car would be perfect for my town in Alaska though. We have no roads out, it's about 50 miles from the far side of town to the other side. We run on hydroelectric power. Everyone's commute is 5 miles to 15 miles. It would be 100% green if they threw a few thousand of those up here.
 
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It goes on sale November 1st.
 
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I'll keep my fuel hungry vehicles thank you
 
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Originally Posted by rolsmojave3
I'll keep my fuel hungry vehicles thank you
Haha

Although I am not much of a fan of this vehicle, I would much rather see/drive/purchase/own/discuss/ride in a volt than a Prius or FCX Clarity.
 
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yeah I'd rather drive it over the azian ones. but yeah all the gas/diesel ones still kill them for original cost and maintaining/driving etc. Its a nice thought but the technology just isnt great yet.
 
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everytime i see a prius i always think of that ventriloquist comedian - iiiiiimmmm gay.
 
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I love the screen where the gauges would be....
I think its a cool idea and its great that a big company is trying to break into the electric car scene
 
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You have to remember they can do 40 miles without using any gas at all. So for me I'd get an insane MPG since I don't really drive more than that per day usually
 
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Originally Posted by korey89
You have to remember they can do 40 miles without using any gas at all. So for me I'd get an insane MPG since I don't really drive more than that per day usually
Exactly, I think this car would be great in a urban environment or for people who dont travel 40 miles a day. I barely do more than 40 usually so itd be great for me and i bet alot more people too.
 
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I give it 3 years max. Price tag is too high.
 
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its a rip off , of a new Honda Civic
 
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Its still a POS chevrolet

Wow would want a gov motors car?



NOT ME!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by joshtank
its a rip off , of a new Honda Civic
Not really, the drive system in this car is not used in any other electric or hybrid car
 
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i think the concept is cool bu t idont see this selling
 
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Originally Posted by 04blackedge
I'd rather have a Golf TDI
Our 2010 Golf TDI four door retailed at 24k, well equipped, 0-60 in under 9 seconds, averaging 40mpg and is really fun to drive. Tax rebate was $1300 on it. Well it's a tax credit not rebate, similar to the volt.

Originally Posted by Red_Ak_Ranger
I like it, but they need to de-homo-fy the interior a bit. Otherwise I think that its a good step in the right direction. Maybe Ford should be smart and whip out an electric F150 :)
The interior is really gay, I agree! As a "proof of concept", it is okay I guess. Overall I don't see the appeal in the car though.

Originally Posted by 01_ranger_4x4
40 MPG average? thats really not that great. there are non hybrid gas vehicles getting close to that and TDI diesels that get better than that and are faster. its a neat idea though.
Yep.

Originally Posted by Red_Ak_Ranger
Dude under 40 miles it is all electric.

Also it will have a 7500$ tax rebate.

To be honest though, if you're running off the electrical grid you're really just usually using coal or gasoline. The car would be perfect for my town in Alaska though. We have no roads out, it's about 50 miles from the far side of town to the other side. We run on hydroelectric power. Everyone's commute is 5 miles to 15 miles. It would be 100% green if they threw a few thousand of those up here.

All electric when it is fully charged. That charge costs money at the house, as well as special equipment at home unless you want to do a slow 110v charge. The charge is also coming from coal fired power plants more than likely.

That $7500 rebate is sure going to help our national debt situation. lol. Obviously Chevy knows that they can blatantly overprice their car because tax payers are going to have to cover the difference. Also again, the "rebate" is not getting money back. You have to reconfigure your deductions and OWE $7500 to get to use that money. It is not a refund, you still have to buy the car for the full price.

Originally Posted by korey89
You have to remember they can do 40 miles without using any gas at all. So for me I'd get an insane MPG since I don't really drive more than that per day usually
Again, that is assuming that you plug it in and pay for that every day as well, don't run the a/c, etc. Any big electrical load is going to decrease the range. The overall cost of the car (and the depreciation of most Chevys) is not going to save you much (any?) money rather than just buying a normal fuel efficient car.



I mean, maybe the car is a step in the right direction...? But overall I still think it sucks and isn't worth anywhere near what they ask for it.
 


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