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Could use another inch on 4x4

Ok so i got my BL on and I got my 35's on. Pics coming soon. I had to crank the T-bars up all the way, bolt is bottomed out. Tires clear fenders and everything is good, sort of. As I turn the tires they come to a point where the tire gets close to the fender right in front of the door. I had considered trimming the fender or buying fiberglass fenders both of which would fix the problem, But I don't really want to do either. Fiber fenders might be in the futher but another inch of lift would be better and I hear its bad to bottom out the T-bar bolts so even with fiber fenders I could use another inch.

I heard about torsin bar keys what are those ?

I also heard about a uniball kit from weldtec ?

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Isn't torsion bar keys for lowering the truck? Well you dont want to do that, but for the price of the weldtech suspension with all the Upgrades, you could have a Superlift kit that is better IMO
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Torsion keys can also be used to raise the front end, but I have never seen anyone use them in that way yet.
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Isn't torsion bar keys for lowering the truck? Well you dont want to do that, but for the price of the weldtech suspension with all the Upgrades, you could have a Superlift kit that is better IMO
It all depends on what you want on the truck, lift, or performance. You can't compare the two, as one gives looks and one gives you more travel.
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You don't need any more lift with 'glass fenders. I could have fit 37's without rubbing with them.
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Isn't torsion bar keys for lowering the truck? Well you dont want to do that, but for the price of the weldtech suspension with all the Upgrades, you could have a Superlift kit that is better IMO

i would much rather have the weldtec than the superlift...
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I just noticed that lol.

Drop down IFS brackets are alot better quality and performance than uniball's and 10" of travel.
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You don't need any more lift with 'glass fenders. I could have fit 37's without rubbing with them.
True, but if I had another inch of lift I would not need the glass fenders. I just want as much lift as I can get with out getting into a super lift or RCD
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I am not really trying to compare the two, I am just tring to see what each of them do, I have a good idea what the weldtec would do, now If I can get some info on the torsen keys that would be great.

Any other ways to get more lift in the front of a 4x4 without getting into a super lift or RCD ?
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I just noticed that lol.

Drop down IFS brackets are alot better quality and performance than uniball's and 10" of travel.
You're joking, right? Drop down brackets are crap, all they do is weaken your main frame and sub frame by adding another stress point. I don't care what you say, drop down kits for the most part are not stronger than stock components, and companies like RCD/Superlift/Skyjacker (with RCD being the exception, as their kit is engineered pretty well) that make them design them for tire clearance, slow offroading like trails and, mainly for looks. They don't expect you to go beat the crap out of your truck and have their kit take it. I'd take a stock shock over one of their white shocks anyday as well (again excluding RCD as they use Bilsteins). Drop down brackets are no good in my opinion, seen too many break because the guys that buy 'em think they can wheel 'em. Drop down kits at MOST give you another inch of travel over stock, and still have you worried about ball joints. No travel gains, added stress areas, ball joint wear, . Just my educated $0.02.

And Ben, other than torsion bars and a body lift ( ), you're not going to get any more lift on a 4x4 without spending some money.

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And Ben, other than torsion bars and a body lift ( ), you're not going to get any more lift on a 4x4 without spending some money.
It was worth a shot. Thanks for everybodys info. I have a few things to concider. but with how well things went yesterday. I think I am ok.

Anybody see on weldtec site thay have a 6" lift, lots of money but I bet its the best thing out there, concidering how good their other kit is.
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LOL trent i was bein sarcastic as fawk!! lol you got punked!
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I fail to see how new shocks and 1" Uniballs give you 3" of lift. And no pictures on the site?
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Ben, anything you do with torsion bar adjustment (cranking, reindexed keys, whatever) only pushes you away from the problem temporarily. When you hit a bump, your suspension compresses and puts you right back into a tire inference situation. If you want 35's to completely clear, you will probably need to do something more serious than a 3" body lift and it won't be cheap.

Also, the wheel backspacing that you choose will be critical. More BS=more likely to rub on the inner fender, splash shield and suspension. Less BS=more likely to rub on the fender and bumper.
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Fiberglass solves all your problems and its only 350$ away...

and besides, 35's raise your minimum ground clearance, and with only 3" of lift you still have a very low center of gravity, which is what you want off-road. Biggest tire with minimal lift.
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i want glass....
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Has anyone figured out how the Weld- Tec kit works? Maybe I missed a lot, but the kit doesn't seem to provide things vital to lifting a SLA truck.
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Has anyone figured out how the Weld- Tec kit works? Maybe I missed a lot, but the kit doesn't seem to provide things vital to lifting a SLA truck.
Trent will be able to tell you when he checks this agian. When I join the air force I am thinkin bout getting the weldtec lift.
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After how well things went yesterday I think I am in good shape. At least for now, maybe i will being a weldtec lift before too long.
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Has anyone figured out how the Weld- Tec kit works? Maybe I missed a lot, but the kit doesn't seem to provide things vital to lifting a SLA truck.


go search for a topic called " i want more than the typical lift can give" started by andy (roach) and we go way into the subject...
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LOL trent i was bein sarcastic as fawk!! lol you got punked!
Damn you Jey, lol.

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I fail to see how new shocks and 1" Uniballs give you 3" of lift. And no pictures on the site?

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Has anyone figured out how the Weld- Tec kit works? Maybe I missed a lot, but the kit doesn't seem to provide things vital to lifting a SLA truck.
Crap, am I going to have to do what I did on G-E and start writing novels online about these kits again? Damn I wish I had saved those, lol. Give me time, I'll write up as much as I can about it tonight.

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After how well things went yesterday I think I am in good shape. At least for now, maybe i will being a weldtec lift before too long.
Ben, dude, listen to me. For the third time, the Weldtec kit will NOT lift your truck. The spindle that Jeremy installs with this kit is a 2wd lift spindle, not a 4wd lift knuckle. You will get a bit more travel from the uniball, and yes the upper arm will work, but you will NOT get any lift from it. Just trying to save you some money and frustration.

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Trent

we are talking about 2 different things, they make a 4x4 kit also,

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Kit Number: FL5000
Description: This kit will give you 3 " of lift and increase your travel upto 10"
click the link in the first post

I am thinking about this and glass fenders would be alot of fun
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Ben, he made a typo when he added that, he doesn't make a "lift" kit compatible with the 4x4. The 4x4 kit he lists is basically what Camburg offers as their 4x4 upgrade, new shocks and mounts, and he also includes the upper arm with uniballs. The only lift there is, is from the torsion crank.

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Oh snap, your were right then, can still crank the T-bars and get increased travel ?
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