OK, I plan on using a D44 from an 86 wagoneer. I have a couple of questions.

1. I understand my best bet is to use a Toyota Steering Box. Do I have to use the Toyota steering shaft also? What year and model do I get the box
from?

2. If I stay spring under axle, how do I figure out what leaf springs to get to get the right amount of lift? I don't want the truck any higher than it is. It currently has a 4" Trailmaster suspension lift, with 4" skyjacker leaves in the back.

Thanks.

Ricky

 

off topic, but I know someone who will get that trailmaster off your hands for sure!

 

86-89 yota box
90-95 yota box

both work, you need a shaft from that range too.

the 4runner in that year range has what you need.

go spring over it would be much better if u can.

 

Hey Ricky, I'll let you know on the Trailmaster when the time comes...this is pretty easily 6 months from now.

Zach,

If I go with Spring over, what springs would you recommend? If I stay spring under, what is the lift difference between the two? I basically am going to have your height, but I'll be leafs in the front rather than coils.

 

there are lost of varibles in what kind of height youll get out of a SAS. the springs you use, the mounting you use, and some other things. you could run sprung under, with the regular wagoneer lift springs we use, rancho 44044s. they are two in over stock for a waggy. the biggest problem i see with sprung under is having enough room between the axle and frame and engine crossmember.

 

The difference between spring over and spring under can be nearly whatever you want it to be. Measure the distance from the spring pad to the axle tube, approximately double that, and then add the diameter of the axle tube. That is about how much lift you'd get by simply doing a spring-over-axle swap. You can change the amount of lift you gain going from spring under to spring over by getting taller or shorter spring perches. I think most spring over swaps tend to add between 4 and 6 inches, but like I said, they depend on the diameter of the axle tubes and the height of the spring perches you use.

Wagoneer springs seem to be a pretty good swap for Rangers. They worked well on Jey's rig.

 

jey doesnt have waggys on his. hes got custom alcons.

 

I thought they were based on waggys though? just with some lift?

 

based, kinda. he used the factory 7 leaf pack, and got them to make a pack shorter, but with as many leafs i believe.

E D I T

jeys specs
"Alcan custom leafs based off of 8 3/8" rise 7 leaf waggy springs, shortened ~6"."

 

I know someone else (assuming you're not talking about me) that would take that off your hands too. I think by 6 months I'll be ready to be the first double-suspension lifted Ranger with the lift spindles on the Trailmaster. Roughly 15.5" higher than my truck stock.