lift for 01 ranger...
ok, ive searched and searched and came up with some answers but i didnt wanna bring back a 2 yrold thread. but here goes.
ive got a stock 01 excab 4x4offroad ranger. i wanna lift it and am stumped on some things. i wanna get a body lift bc that all i can afford right now since i wanna get wheels and tires at the same time. i wanna get 15 or 16" wheels with 33/12.50 maxxis bighorns. ik the BL should fit them but id like to level up my truck bc i hate the rake. i talked to a local shop about keys and cranking the tbars. he said that crankin can be bad and that keys are the way to go. on here all you guys tell everyone to steer clear of keys and to get #1 tbars. so thats the first thing im stumped on. where do you get them and how do you know if you have them or not? second is i read about the beltech drop shackles. if they are drop shackles how do they lift the truck? will it work w/ my stock rear blocks? what size lift will it give me and will it still have a rake w/ #1 bars and a crank? i eventually wanna get a superlift 3-4" lift. i read on their site that the rear is lifted up w/ blocks. do you remove the stock blocks and put the superlift blocks in place of the old ones or stack them? local shop said not to "stack" rear blocks bc its a problem waiting to happen. what i was thinkn was to keep the stock block and just get AALs for the rest of the height. any ideas and input would be great. im a noob in the lifting part of the rangers given that there are few and far between on lift options. which makes no sense these trucks being the most popular midsize truck. |
Cranking the bars has the same effect as keys. The shackles raise the truck by lowering the mounting point of the leaf springs. They are "drop" shackles because they are meant to lower full-size Chevys. The shackles on the Chevys are reversed from our trucks, so it lifts a Ranger. If you are trying to level the truck out, just crank the bars. If you get shackles, the truck won't be level because you are raising the rear as well as the front.
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for my superlift in the back i used the super lift block with an aal and shackle and didnt use the stock block. sits perfectly level.
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Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286533)
ok, ive searched and searched and came up with some answers but i didnt wanna bring back a 2 yrold thread. but here goes.
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286533)
ive got a stock 01 excab 4x4offroad ranger. i wanna lift it and am stumped on some things. i wanna get a body lift bc that all i can afford right now since i wanna get wheels and tires at the same time.
Sounds good READ THIS will help you alot... https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=83805
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286533)
i wanna get 15 or 16" wheels with 33/12.50 maxxis bighorns. ik the BL should fit them but id like to level up my truck bc i hate the rake.
here tire size chart for ya... 01-08 XLT 4X4, FX4, Level II, EDGE 2wd & 4X4(Sport newer models)(mild T-bar crank always recommended for leveling purposes, always remember to get an alignment) * 15x7 stock suspension - 30x9.5x15, 31x10.5x15, 32x11.5x15, 33x10.5x15(T-bar crank recommended), 33x12.5x15(will need trimming and T-Bar crank) * 15x8 stock suspension - 31x10.5x15, 32x11.5x15, 33x10.5x15(T-bar crank recommended), 33x12.5x15(will need trimming and T-Bar crank) * 15x8 & 15x10 body lift or suspension lift - 32x11.5x15, 33x10.5x15, 33x12.5x15, 35x12.5x15(trimming also involved in multiple areas and T-bar max...), 325x60x15(31x12.9x15) * 15x8 & 15x10 body lift AND 4-5" suspension lift - 33x12.5x15, 35x12.5x15(T-bar crank recommended, were applicable), *Anything larger at your own risk or T-bar max and trimming* * 16x7 stock suspension - 255x70x16, 265x70x16, 265x75x16, 285x75x16(mild t-bar crank recommended but might not be needed.) * 16x8 stock suspension - 265x75x16, 285x75x16(same as above) 295x75x16(t-bar crank recommended and maybe trim.) * 16x8 or 16x10 body lift or suspension lift - 265x75x16(16x8 only), 285x75x16, 305x75x16, 315x75x16(trimming also involved in multiple areas and T-bar max...) * 16x8 or 16x10 body lift AND 4-5" suspension lift - 285x75x16, 305x75x16, 315x75x16(T-bar crank recommended, were applicable), *Anything larger at your own risk or T-bar max and trimming* here my truck with Class 1 bars and body lift and 33x12.5x15 on 15x8 Attachment 163615
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286533)
i talked to a local shop about keys and cranking the tbars. he said that crankin can be bad and that keys are the way to go. on here all you guys tell everyone to steer clear of keys and to get #1 tbars. so thats the first thing im stumped on. where do you get them and how do you know if you have them or not?
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Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286533)
second is i read about the beltech drop shackles. if they are drop shackles how do they lift the truck? will it work w/ my stock rear blocks? what size lift will it give me and will it still have a rake w/ #1 bars and a crank?
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286533)
i eventually wanna get a superlift 3-4" lift. i read on their site that the rear is lifted up w/ blocks. do you remove the stock blocks and put the superlift blocks in place of the old ones or stack them? local shop said not to "stack" rear blocks bc its a problem waiting to happen. what i was thinkn was to keep the stock block and just get AALs for the rest of the height.
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wow zach you kept the stock block and aal and shackle? i tried that and it sagged like a mofo. i had to put the 4" SL block in there to even make it level...
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thanks guys, that was quick. and zach, i have basically the same truck as you, just a year newer w/ the newer front end. which means the parts are the same, right? how do ik if i have the #1s? i dont think i do but id hate to spend the $$$ and then find out i had them all along.
so on the AAL, which brand and what size? i cant afford to do the SL and such to fit 35s but when i do i should be set, i have 4.10 gears so would it be hard to turn 35s. seein that most 35s are actually 34.5s. on the wheel choices im down to 3 styles in 15s OR 16s. the procomp 1079s polished, a procomp steel rim, or the MT classic 2s. i thought about doing what u suggested and get 15s since tires are cheaper. i thought that 15s would look small but yours look great. most ppl run oversized wheels w/ lowpro 33"+ mud/ats around here. would look good for street but be stupid if you actually took the truck offroad and use it for what it was made for, not to look all pretty... how well do rangers turn 35s? i was gonna get a 1500 chevy and was on a chevy forum and they all said if you get 35s you need to get new gears and all that stuff. i find it hard to believe that you would need to do that to a fullsize v8 truck when some of you guys are running 35s w/ few mods other than lifts to fit them. but im glad i changed my mind, i love my ranger. lol. but i do wish ford wouldve done like dodge and put the small v8 in em. dont rele wanna mess w/ the exploder 5.0 swap. almost forgot, what offset on the wheels? i kinna want the tires to stick out a lil bit. dont know much about backspacing and offset. IMO i think wheel/tire specs are the most complicated compared to other parts (besides the engine) |
I can burn my 35's with my 4.0 and 4.10's easy, i even get better highway mpg with them.
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If you want the wheels to stick out a little, get backspacing under 4. 3.75 or 3.5 would probably be ideal for you. On the sticker that is just inside the door jamb, there is a section with SPR. Under SPR should be something like 1k or BBKK. The first set of letter/numbers is the rating on your torsion bars, the second set is the rating on your leaf springs.
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Originally Posted by shadow905
(Post 1286591)
wow zach you kept the stock block and aal and shackle? i tried that and it sagged like a mofo. i had to put the 4" SL block in there to even make it level...
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286603)
thanks guys, that was quick. and zach, i have basically the same truck as you, just a year newer w/ the newer front end. which means the parts are the same, right? how do ik if i have the #1s? i dont think i do but id hate to spend the $$$ and then find out i had them all along.
door sticker under spring go look what is says
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286603)
so on the AAL, which brand and what size? i cant afford to do the SL and such to fit 35s but when i do i should be set, i have 4.10 gears so would it be hard to turn 35s. seein that most 35s are actually 34.5s.
general rule of thumb if you have a 4.0L is 4.10 for 33's and 4.56 for 35's
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286603)
on the wheel choices im down to 3 styles in 15s OR 16s. the procomp 1079s polished, a procomp steel rim, or the MT classic 2s. i thought about doing what u suggested and get 15s since tires are cheaper. i thought that 15s would look small but yours look great. most ppl run oversized wheels w/ lowpro 33"+ mud/ats around here. would look good for street but be stupid if you actually took the truck offroad and use it for what it was made for, not to look all pretty...
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286603)
how well do rangers turn 35s? i was gonna get a 1500 chevy and was on a chevy forum and they all said if you get 35s you need to get new gears and all that stuff. i find it hard to believe that you would need to do that to a fullsize v8 truck when some of you guys are running 35s w/ few mods other than lifts to fit them. but im glad i changed my mind, i love my ranger. lol. but i do wish ford wouldve done like dodge and put the small v8 in em. dont rele wanna mess w/ the exploder 5.0 swap.
problem with 35's and rangers is the front suspension your getting into the to big for everything stage. wheel bearings hate you, ball joints hate you.. tirrods hate you... 33's is the all around best size for ranger imo.. i keep wanting 35's and superlift but then talk myself out of it the 33's do everything i need them to do
Originally Posted by kymudder08
(Post 1286603)
almost forgot, what offset on the wheels? i kinna want the tires to stick out a lil bit. dont know much about backspacing and offset. IMO i think wheel/tire specs are the most complicated compared to other parts (besides the engine)
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Originally Posted by FordGuy302
(Post 1286613)
I can burn my 35's with my 4.0 and 4.10's easy, i even get better highway mpg with them.
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i have a 3.0L and 4.10s with 35s and mine does fine. yea i could change it to lower ratio but eh....im not worried about it
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ha ha talk to trepaul, he said manual you have to get new gears run 35's then talk k
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Originally Posted by shadow905
(Post 1286619)
i have a 3.0L and 4.10s with 35s and mine does fine. yea i could change it to lower ratio but eh....im not worried about it
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Well i know how great gear swaps make things also but try changing em in rangers front diff it isnt fun when i can burn em and tow and everything no prob
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Originally Posted by Redneckstone
(Post 1286622)
being i have first hand experience with the effects of the gear swaps it would be the first thing on my list its great how much power you get back. ignoring it isnt the best idea..
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Originally Posted by FordGuy302
(Post 1286621)
ha ha talk to trepaul, he said manual you have to get new gears run 35's then talk k
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Originally Posted by FordGuy302
(Post 1286625)
Well i know how great gear swaps make things also but try changing em in rangers front diff it isnt fun when i can burn em and tow and everything no prob
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Time is needed though and i have little. LOL
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Originally Posted by Redneckstone
(Post 1286654)
front diff is simple it isnt hard to remove it
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Originally Posted by FordGuy302
(Post 1286655)
Time is needed though and i have little. LOL
Originally Posted by 01_ranger_4x4
(Post 1286656)
yeah the front diff was easier for me. i pulled it out and threw it on the bench and set the gears. that was way easier than laying in the gound like i did in the back. lol
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yea i also dont have 350 bucks for gears right now, and i love my new mpg. Almost all my driving is highway
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ok, im set on the wheel/tire size. now what about shocks? and on the rims, would you recc. steel or alum? i figured if i wanted to same money for now to get steel but they eventuall rust out so idno. lol. how will the lift affect my exhaust? i just have a muffler w/ turndown, no tailpipes yet.
this is the info on the sticker un the doorjam: wb: 126 BRK: D INT TR: ET TP/PS: S/ R: K Axle: 97 TR: D SPR: 1K 1R31B 405 |
anymore input, and what tbars do i have? got the wheels/tires picked out. was gonna get procomp polished 1079s but the dealer cant get them bc he switched suppliers, so i went w/ the MT classic IIs. not sure to get 15x8s or 15x10s. salesman said he wasnt for sure if the 15x10s would fit w/ just a body lift, that there might be some slight rubbing. on the tires im goin with 33/12.50/15 maxxis bighorns. love the way they look and heard good things about them. would get high dollar name brand but i cant really afford it right now. but neways. heres the prices:
33/12.50/15 maxxis bighorns: $159.99 ea MT classic IIs: 15x8- $139.99 ea 15x10- $159.99 ea total w/ 15x8s mounted/balanced/installed/lugs: $1335.40 +tax (add $80 for 15x10s) just ordered the summit body lift a few minutes ago for $119.90 after tax. they are chargin $384 to install the bl (me and my dad would do it but dont have the time or patience. lol) since they was doin all of this i was gonna have em crank the tbars thinkn they wouldnt charge but like 10 bux since i was buyin a bunch from them but they want $50 bux just to crank the damn things! plus another 50 for allignment. ill just do the damn tbars myself before i take it in... but what do you guys think on the price? |
15x10 fit its up to you never take advice from sales people there morons..
you have class 1 bars already just crank them and you having a body lift installed wow big waste of time and money |
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