ride quality after lift - Ranger-Forums - The Ultimate Ford Ranger Resource


Suspension Tech General discussion of suspension for the Ford Ranger.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-27-2009
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: topeka, ks
Posts: 32
ride quality after lift

i had these keys put on my 08 sport after (probably like most purchasers of 08 rangers) having been dissappointed with the reduction in ride height from previous years. the installer said he could only get about 2 inch of height in the front, and at his suggestion, i had 1 1/2 inch blocks in the back instead of the springs. it sits pretty level and looks great, but the ride up front is pretty stiff and quite bouncy. it says here longer shocks might be necessary to maintain ride quality, but the installer said it wouldnt help. anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? and since ive developed a bad case of lift fever, am considering a body lift. would prefer 2 over 3 inches, but it appears no-one offers a 2 inch kit for this year?
http://store.fatbobsgarage.com/share...t=products.asp
third product from the top
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-27-2009
shadow905's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boerne, TX
Posts: 1,997
call the guys at fatbobs. their website doesnt do them justice. great guys.


what exactly are you looking for? just more height? ride quality? a body lift isnt going to solve your stiff ride problem. if youre looking for more lift with a better ride then get a suspension lift.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-27-2009
freddie's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: OH
Posts: 2,463
No no no!

Remove those keys! Aftermarket torsion bar keys made to "lift" the truck are terrible! They will eat up balljoints, along with making your ride quality suck.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-27-2009
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: topeka, ks
Posts: 32
just want more ride heght. and i understand bl wont change ride quality. duh. im just searching for info bout whether different shocks up front will help
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-27-2009
shadow905's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boerne, TX
Posts: 1,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderlumber View Post
duh.

my bad....forgot you were the expert.


new shocks wont do that much if anything. remove the keys and do a body lift if youre just wanting height and ride quality.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-27-2009
freddie's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: OH
Posts: 2,463
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow905 View Post
new shocks wont do that much if anything. remove the keys and do a body lift if youre just wanting height and ride quality.
Exactly. Remove the keys, and scrap them. Then find yourself a body lift..
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-27-2009
brianjwilson's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 3,650
The main reason the ride quality sucks is because you now have no/little suspension droop from ride height. If you hit a 1" deep pot hole you're probably hitting the end of the suspension travel.
It's the nature of the beast. Torsion keys do this. There is a reason why they are "cheap" compared to a real lift.
New shocks probably aren't going to do much for you, you will still be topping out the suspension.

Sorry dude, it pays to research these things a bit before buying them. You could "un-crank" them to a slightly lower ride height. But you could also remove them and re-sell them, and get a body lift or something else.

Here is a suggestion though...
Measure the wheel to wheel-well height on both sides (up front) sitting on level ground.
Lift the truck with a jack until the front tires are off the ground. Measure the well to wheel-well distance again. That will tell you how much droop you have.
I wouldn't want to have any less than 2-3" of droop. You can readjust until it sits at a more reasonable height, just remember you may need an alignment.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-27-2009
Toreador4x4's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Livonia, MI
Posts: 3,958
put some older OEM keys in it and then body lift it. the OEM keys from older rangers are designed to sit higher (pre 2007 i think)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-27-2009
kymudder08's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Owensboro, KY
Posts: 838
i dont see why all you guys think keys are sooo bad. it wouldnt be any different than tightening the T-bars except for the fact that thats free and the keys arent. wont you top out the suspension either way though?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-27-2009
shadow905's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boerne, TX
Posts: 1,997
i have keys on my f150 and for a long time it rode like a tank. i lowered it 3/4" and now its rides like glass. it doesnt take much. there is a happy medium that you need to find with those keys
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-27-2009
whippersnapper02's Avatar
RF Veteran
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 7,415
Quote:
Originally Posted by kymudder08 View Post
i dont see why all you guys think keys are sooo bad. it wouldnt be any different than tightening the T-bars except for the fact that thats free and the keys arent. wont you top out the suspension either way though?
The aftermarket keys put way more stress on the bars than the stock keys ever could. Also it they kill your ball joints quickly as well.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-27-2009
shadow905's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boerne, TX
Posts: 1,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by fddriver02 View Post
The aftermarket keys put way more stress on the bars than the stock keys ever could. Also it they kill your ball joints quickly as well.

what he said^^^



however, it did push my f150 to the sky. lol
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-27-2009
pace51's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: on da puter
Posts: 711
With the 4/3 my truck as good as stock after the lift was installed. It even handeled better because of the wider tires.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-27-2009
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: topeka, ks
Posts: 32
i thought id researched it thoroughly enough, but i didnt discover these forums, (rangerstation, rangerpowersports, etc) until after id already had it installed. everything id read said it would retain stock ride quality, which was an outright lie. ive decided to go this way as suggested above. after the key swap and 3 inch body lift ive been toying with, mine will look just like the yellow sport final product, which will make me happy.
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/for...rsion+key+swap
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-27-2009
Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: topeka, ks
Posts: 32
btw, ive still got the stock 08 keys if anyone would be interested in swapping with me for 07 or older keys.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-27-2009
EricRanger's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cary, IL
Posts: 801
I have the same keys, i didnt top out my suspension so it isnt any worse than cranking your keys. its a stiffer ride cauz you do top out alot more over large pot holes. uncranking them will help with ride quality, im still on stock shocks and they suck but i dont drive a truck because i want a smooth ride. and for more lift a bodylift is an inexpensive way to go, thats what i did.

stock
Name:  n1137600241_30116070_8869.jpg
Views: 12
Size:  66.1 KB

after keys and 3" taller leafs
Name:  IMG_0220.jpg
Views: 11
Size:  97.5 KB

after 3" body lift
Name:  IMG_0313.jpg
Views: 12
Size:  121.4 KB
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-27-2009
shadow905's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boerne, TX
Posts: 1,997
dude i just remembered, this weekend ill be getting rid of my keys. shoot me a pm if your interested.

/end threadjack

have you tried cranking them down a little bit?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
To those running coilovers: How did that affect ride quality? chucky2 Suspension Tech 0 11-16-2014 11:58 PM
bouncy ride after shock install 06xlt Suspension Tech 4 08-27-2014 08:49 PM
Fully cranked torsion bar ride quality? lostboarder222 Suspension Tech 15 04-25-2006 03:02 AM
Ride quality, shocks? optikal illushun Suspension Tech 5 02-21-2005 08:53 AM
Checkmate FX bed cover: can anyone vouch for the quality? Wowak General Ford Ranger Discussion 9 07-10-2004 02:48 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:35 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.