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Screw the lift kits, SAS is needed

ok i have been looking into the superlift and rcd kits for about a week now

after seeing each of them in person on other rangers neither kit provides the amount of lift i want, so SAS is my only other option. i want to keep it cheap for the time being but i want to get 6"-7" of lift and i want to run leaf springs even after i upgrade to a D44


planning to try a HP D30, toyota 6" leaves, 35"s, 4.56's

the problem- i suck at welding, no idea how to set up the steering,

the questions- what year YJ's can i get a leaf sprung HP D30 out of?, what kind of steering would be the best?,where can i get a custom driveshaft? ,anyone willing to help when i get everything i need?

anything else i would need for this setup that i missed all info is welcome
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Yea, you've got about 1% of what all needs to be done. Keep searching.

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check out www.greatlakes4x4.com

theres people selling all kinds of axles and stuff, thats where i got my two d30's from.

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Yea, you've got about 1% of what all needs to be done. Keep searching.

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i have searched and searched a few more times, since i wont be running coils it will (should) be much simpler than a coil set up and shouldnt require as much
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Sooo if you suck at welding how are you gonna get sas'd?
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hence the asking if someone was willing to help
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I would suggest learning to weld honestly. A SAS project will take weeks or even months. I'd hate to try to rely on someone to 'help' me out for that long. I'd also suggest if you're doing leaves to scour 034x4's and Brenton's SAS threads. After reading every single page more than once you should sit back and decide if a SAS is really something you can handle.

AND if you DO decide a SAS is for you, and you really do want to go through all the work, and you really do want to run 35s.......you should really reconsider the D30. You want to upgrade to a 44, just do it right the first time.
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i have read brentons thread a couple times

ok so i will see if my buddy will teach me to weld better, what would be better for what im gonna be doing mig or tig?

what vehicles can i pull a d44 out of, years/makes/models?


EDIT: it was 03 4x4's thread that i have been reading

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i would say MIG

and as for years... there are a TON of vehicles that came with D44s in them..


and don't bash Leaves.. those All pro leaves can and will out flex a ton of coil rigs
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im not bashing leaves, that what i want to use
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If you want a YJ D30....almost all YJ's had D30s.
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well the only reason i was gonna run a D30 was to keep cost down but if i have to spend a year collecting everything while i learn to weld ALOT better, i might as well run a D44
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1) i didnt say you were. everyone else says it. plus there is a ton less to go wrong with a leaf sprung SAS

2) dont use a damn D30.. just go straight for a D44.
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called my buddy and he said he would teach me to weld, so i will just start gathering parts until i learn to weld good enough to embark on the solid axle swap

in which case i'll start hunting for a D44

what is a good leaf to use for 6-7" of lift?

EDIT: would it be easier to find a narrow-trac D44 or just shorten a regular one?
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your in Michigan..

id save your money 100% figure out what you want..

when zabeard figures out what he is going to go..let him do it..hes done it before..he is wanting to start a small side work stuff..and hes kinda close..
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i want a leaf sprung D44 w/ 6-7" of lift ive had that plan since i got the truck

but i was gonna try to build it cheaper then slowly upgrade

i saw his post awhile back about doing a sas if you provide the axle, or something like that havent seen it in awhile
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i would say All Pro leaves. allprooffroad.com 3, 4, 5, and 6"

heard marlin has good leaves, but he only has 4 and 5" springs.
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/suspension/springs.htm




some people use Waggy leaves..
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It's funny, but I was looking at all the topics on what lift to get that have been on lately, and my thoughts were very much like your topic title: "The heck with IFS lifts, do a SAS", lol.
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I believe if you run toyota leafs, you take that lifted leaf size, add 2" because of mounting position on a ranger frame for leafs, and that's how much lift your truck would have...

For example.....

4" AllPro yoda leaf would generate 6" lift on a ranger sas.


Something similar to that. But dont take my word on that.
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but rangers are also heavier so i'm going to buy a slightly taller spring.
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i'vegot 6" all pro long travels sitting in my shop right now! Might possibly get a 5" set just in case 6" is too tall.
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4" AllPro yoda leaf would generate 6" lift on a ranger sas.

Something similar to that. But dont take my word on that.
nice, i will be running 4.5" RE leafs out of a yj, im picking em up tomorrow.
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if you know where to look, you can find a cut and turned d44 ready to go with gears and a limited slip for 100bux
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^^haha! right.....



Like many people will probably say....Better to built it right first. Go D44 first, rather than second. I've personally bent 2 housings of D30s in my old cherokee, as well as snapping multiple stock shafts. Heck, i even bent the D44 rear housing.

Unless...your just wanting a big lift and drive it on the street....D30 is fine for "mall cruisin" imo. I'm hard on my rigs, what can i say.
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i'm goin with the 60 rear just because of how i wheel..
an 8.8 would probably be fine.. but not with my foot
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