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Spindle Vs. lift

Hey everyone, i recently became the owner of a 99 ranger 2wd and needed a little clarification. All the forums on spindles are confusing so im posting this thread. I wanted to run a Complete Pro comp 3" spindle kit (from ebay, $520) and a 3" body lift. Is a spindle kit going to be tough enough to take jumps, and trails etc.? Not real heavy stuff, just fun on the weekends with a daily driver (and RR tracks lol). Also what tires should i go with? im thinking 33x10.5x15, although 35s would be nice. But cost, fuel economy, and my dad are factors against 35s. Plus would 35s fit with enough clearance? Thank you.
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the only question i can answer is that if you lift it like you say you will, you'll definitely have clearance for the 35s.

that's about all i can tell you since all ive done suspension wise are the t-bars. Someone else will jump in though. good luck with the project =)
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spindles are pretty tuff dude...

i would worry about that BL before the spindles

n3elz (john) has a vid of him accidentally jumping his truck (edge with spindles on 35's)

Also, if you are only going to run 33's...run just the spindle lift IMO...you'll have plenty of clearance.

And skip to a 12.5 wide tire..it looks 10000x better (fatter). It never really measures out to 12.5" wide BTW
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If you go spindles and body lift you can fit as large as 40 inch tires. Not a typo.


Spindles alone will look great! Body lift gets the ladys with spindles and 35s!

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is it an xlt or edge?

if its an xlt these guys are full of it... i have 33x10.50s with just spindles.. not enough room for offroading.. i woud not put 35's with 6 inches.. in my pic is 33's w/ spindles...
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is it an xlt or edge?

if its an xlt these guys are full of it... i have 33x10.50s with just spindles.. not enough room for offroading.. i woud not put 35's with 6 inches.. in my pic is 33's w/ spindles...
are you jokin?
35 will be fine with 6 inches of lift on a 99.
if you dont have fender flairs, you are totally fine for it.
If you have fender flairs, then you may need to trim just a tad bit.
i've got 33x12.5 on 3 inches of lift with fender flairs, and i have only rubed a couple times while off-roading.
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is it an xlt or edge?

if its an xlt these guys are full of it... i have 33x10.50s with just spindles.. not enough room for offroading.. i woud not put 35's with 6 inches.. in my pic is 33's w/ spindles...

Bryn is right. 35s wont fit. he has an XLT it does not have torsion bars.
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thanks zabeard.. rangererv you have t bars johnny mac does not.. thanks gain zabeard

nice truck by the way.. it sucks what happened
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Ill probably go with 33x12.5x15, since im on a strict budget and the price jump for 35s is a couple hundred. Not to mention i dont have flairs, or T-bars. The wide 33s will look sweet. Thanks for the help!
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no problem anytime
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If you go spindles and body lift you can fit as large as 40 inch tires. Not a typo.


Spindles alone will look great! Body lift gets the ladys with spindles and 35s!

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Dude, I hope you are kidding
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Well you're naive then. I'm talking about edge vehicles.

"daytonabchranger" on cardomain.com has 40s on his 2wd.

Look it up.

And yes, i knwo 2wd xlt and lower aren't as tall so they dont fit as big of tires.
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F the body lift, it is a pain to install and expensive too if you have someone else do it. Dont buy the procomp kit, they just sell the same spindles as Doetsch tech does, you can get them for 330 with rear blocks on ebay. IF you run just spindles and a body lift, you dont need front shocks. I would buy lift coils and springs and at least like ranchos all around with the spindles, they are very easy to install. You can get lift coils on ebay and an addaleaf from almost anywhere cheap. The lift coils give around 2-3 inches of lift and enough clearance for 33s with spindles, but 32s might be better if you dont plan on re-gearing and if you want to beat it up cause the smaller tires wont hit or rub on anything when offroading. I have a whole fabtech 5.5 kit on its way to my house as well as a body lift and I plan on runnin 8.5 inches of lift with 35s. IF you are interested in lift coils I already have a set of camburg lift coils and addaleafs just lying around. Dont worry about the upper arms, your tires can still be aligned where it needs to be. IF you are going to worry about that, the fabtech isnt even worth it, just get the Camburg kit with upper uniballs.
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You can also use a shackle to lift the rear
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i know of about 10 people that will beg to differ with you saying a BL is a pain to install, it just takes time....

i say stick with some spindles and the add a leaf and you should be fine with 33's.... are you planning on running stock rims or you getting some 15x8's?
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Well you're naive then. I'm talking about edge vehicles.

"daytonabchranger" on cardomain.com has 40s on his 2wd.

Look it up.

And yes, i knwo 2wd xlt and lower aren't as tall so they dont fit as big of tires.
I just did a size comarison on a pic of his truck on cardomain. He has a strait on view of the tire and comparing the lug nut spacing as a scale, his tires are 35s, not 39.5s like he says (AS I EXPECTED). IF you want to reporduce my little test here, measure the picture at the bolt spacing like a normal five lug spacing is done (start at one lug nut at the middle, skip one lug nut, and measure to the farthest edge of the second lug nut), now my measurement was 1.5 cm. Measure across the diameter of the tire, which for me was 11.5. Your measurements may be different since I saved the pic and opened it up in microsoft office picture so I could zoom in, but that is ok cause you want a ratio, not the same measurements. Now compare that to what we know which is that the bolt spacing is 4.5 inches on a ranger and do the math. 1.5/11.5=4.5/x .... x= 34.5 inches (ROUGHLY). Like I said, its hard enough to fit 35s under rangers with bolt on stuff, 39.5s is a joke.
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i know of about 10 people that will beg to differ with you saying a BL is a pain to install, it just takes time....

i say stick with some spindles and the add a leaf and you should be fine with 33's.... are you planning on running stock rims or you getting some 15x8's?
I am just going off a 40 page instruction manual for mine that is going on my truck, and the fact that local shops near me all want at least 300 bucks (most said 600+) to install it. Plus I cant weld so I will have to worry about the bed brackets. For someone asking about tire size and lifts, I assumed (and made an *** out of myself) it would be too much for them.
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Well you're naive then. I'm talking about edge vehicles.

"daytonabchranger" on cardomain.com has 40s on his 2wd.

dont forget about that other blue one with 38's
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dont forget about that other blue one with 38's
I did the same thing with his picture too, they are 35s. Hate to break to you, but you cant believe everything you read on the internet guys. They might have "typoed" on purpose to get hits.
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Im assuming you meant "little big foot"
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No offense man but you're a noob..


those are 39s or 40s i cant remember. OBVIOUS

Dont tell me both of them lied to us.

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rangers aren't built to handle 40's on a 7.5 or 8.8 even a 9inch...... and on a 2wd... i think its retarded.....
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I dont want to get too expensive, thats why i didnt go with the fabtech lift. Im trying to keep it simple. The spindle kit i mentioned comes with the spindles, 4 ES3000 shocks, and rear AALs. As for rims im hoping for 15x10s (rock crawlers).
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daytonabch definetly has 39.5's or 40s...I'm very confident on saying that.

We both have the same rims...and he makes em look teeny weenie...and on my truck (even in pics) they loook proportionate to the size of the tire...his...well they are way bigger.

Trust us here, that is a 40" tall tire, you CAN fit it...it HAS been done!!!

He has no flares, which does make a difference
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No offense man but you're a noob..


those are 39s or 40s i cant remember. OBVIOUS

Dont tell me both of them lied to us.

Aaron

That is not a 39 inch tire. You need to read up and check with people who have edges and ask them why their 35 inch tires with their body lifts and spindles fit just like those guys who could fit 38+ tires on their trucks. Just measure this pic at the lug spacing and compare it to the tire, if you want I can show you the algebraic derivation. Super Swamper makes tires that are 28 inches tall, if that was your argument. OBVIOUS would mean you could read the tire size. All we can tell is he has an Edge ranger with a body lift and according to him 39.5s on 15x10s. They dont fit under rangers with bolt on kits and his pics dont show any drop down brackets or anything else creative to lift it. Im not sold.
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