As of getting it under warranty they wont turch it because i have aftermarket shocks and tires. For the ball joints yes they are very bad, they pop over everylittle bump or even when i give it gas because of a combination of 2'' wheel spacer, 31 inch tires, cranked torsion bars and no alighnment (dumb idea). As of the straps that price was a estimate and he needs to fab and weld on tabs and he needs to buy the straps the labor charge was prob over estimated deal plus he gives are family huge discounts in the end. The spindles were wrong because fabtech was wrong. And i tried to do this install myself but ended up spending 10 hours 1 night to get absolutly no were and i had to call a tow truck because my friends who said they knew what they were doin had no clue. So this overall lift experience basically makes me want to fall asleep for the next year and forget everything thats happened.

 

new spindles d0nt need new balljoints or upper arms. or limit straps and custom brackets.

what spindles did you buy? i can look them up in the morn and see whats up.

"what did dad get for christmas? dad got hosed."

 

ok that summed it up a lil bit.

kinda one of those told ya so situations on the tbar crank. although im sure its not the main reason your balljoints went bad, im sure it had a nice hand in wearing them out. 2" wheel spacer, what do you need that for? shocks have nothings to do with your ball joints wearing out, you still have your stock wheels and tires? if so, put them on and take it to another dealer.

your havin bad luck everywhere. you need some lucky charms!

 

you dont needs the straps for a spindle swap.. you still keep the FACTORY geometry. sounds like your family "discount" is twice as much as a normal persons price.. they are easy to install.. remove caliper and rotor, then pop the old spindle off then reinstall with the new spindle

 

..or just push down on the front corners, and listen for those noises

 

he says i need straps because i have longer shocks and is i flex out all the way my control arm will hit my frame and i just got back from picking my truck up from his place and he put the rear blocks in for free cause he felt bad lol. But tommorow im gonna go kill the guy at 4wp for sellin me the wrong spindles and c if theyll give me some money beack because now I have to wait 2 weeks for the new ones. So for 2 weeks my truck will look dumb as hell cause the back is about 2 inches higher than the front. And after im done with the spindles im lowering my tbars all the way down

So pretty much life sucks *** at the moment

 

ohh and i dont need to figure out if there bad because i know there completly ****ed and so am I!

 

shouldnt your truck already have a 2inch block in the rear?

so does that mean he stacked blocks?

 

its a 4 inch block he took out the old 1.

 

might want to read this thread:
https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ighlight=block


id stay away from 4inch blocks

 

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH Im going to kill myself. No one tells me these things at fwp! UHH Im pretty much having no luck with whatever I do. So maybe I should just stop doin **** alltogether then nothin bad will happen.

 

tell me about it i was told after i did it to remove them that instant and i didnt..wellu can see what happened to me....cost me 900bucks in damage and i installed everything myself saved thousands doing it myself...

 

I would save to but im a rtard when it comes to doing it urself. I spent 10 hours and called a tow truck to get absolutly no were with my spindles

 

so what about stackng blocks? would 2 on 2 be as bad? or even 2 on 1 because the 4 is a little much with my 2'' aal

 

stacking is just as bad.......

 

uhhh... so im guessin leafs is the next option... my truck is already stiff so do the make something that will raise it but wont make it stiffer?

 

how about chevy leafs?

 

chevy shackles also will give the back end about 2"...if you need help im around the corner from you...my buddy and I did my spindles in about 5 hours...and that included replacing a tie rod (driving to the store that was about an hour round trip)

 

Buddy just calm down a little bit and take a deep breath.

First of all, your truck is an 06. You should NOT be having trouble with ball joints. If you are, you've got a warranty on your truck for a reason. Take off the wheel spacers (which you certainly don't need) and take your truck to the dealer. Shocks and tires will NOT affect your ball joints at all. Save yourself a grand and have the dealer fix your ****.

For your lift, if you got the wrong one from 4WP don't worry about it. Just take it back, have them order the new one. Get some money back if you can.

For installing the spindles, there are LOTS of California members. Find some near you who know what they are doing. If your mechanic is telling you that you need limiting straps and this that and the other for installing a SPINDLE lift, he's blowing smoke up your ***. The only difference between a stock spindle and a lift spindle is the location of the hub. On the lift spindle it's moved down, moving your tires down, and the rest of your truck up in relation to the ground. It doesn't change any of the rest of the steering geometry OR any of the truck's articulation characteristics. You won't get more travel out of your front end, so limiting straps are useless. In fact, you can use the SAME shocks as you have on your stock height truck. The LCA stays in the same place and moves in the same way!

Take a breath. Chill out, relax, and get your warranty work done first. Remember, you DESERVE your warranty work, and the dealer has to prove that your aftermarket parts caused the parts to fail. Shocks and tires have no effect on balljoints. If they give you crap, get irate. Ask to talk to the manager. If you know what you are talking about and make sure they know you do, they won't try to push you around. Don't leave until they agree to fix your truck under the warranty that you PAID FOR. After you get your balljoints taken care of, come talk to us and we'll help you out with your spindle lift.

 

Man if you got GOOD blocks they wont break like that. As long as they arent some cheap aluminum ones you wont have to worry. Steer clear of the autozone blocks. Do you happen to know what blocks they are?


As for the balljoints all these members are right. An 06 should not have balljoint problems and if it does USE that warranty. Like I said I'm still on factory joints, my truck has been lifted for 2 years and the t-bars have been maxed since before the spindles were installed. Not to mention the fact that im running 35s........if you're already having problems with balljoints your dealer WILL fix it. If your balljoints are already shot it has nothing to do with shocks and tires.....and a 2" wheel spacer wont effect your balljoints hardly as much as your wheel bearings.

 

Ok well I have chilled alittle. About the stealership i have tried 4 times at 2 different dealers and got rejected even when i returned my truck to completly stock. They red flagged my truck so thats not an option as fr the wheel spacers those pieces of junk have been for a long time. As for the truck he says I have aftermarket shocks that are much longer and my old shocks kept the control arms from hitting. Its not that the new spindles will cause it to hit its that my shocks wont stop the artiiculation like my stock ones did. Thats y my upper ball joints went bad, because iv accidently got air a few times and the control arms smacked the frame. But im still not completely sure i need them so w/e. As for the upper ball joints and control arms i sure as hell need those. So if anyone is willing to save me from about a grand of work lemme know and ill buy all the pizza you want. So pretty much all I need to do is replace the upper control arms and put on the spindles. Then of course alighn it.

So lemme know if you want to help me whenever your available or if anyone else wants to save my wallet from being raped

 

Actuall you did bring something to my attention. I brought my truck in for tierods and not upper balljoints so maybe theyll let me slide. All i have for them to ***** and moan about right now is that my tbars are cranked, aftermarket shocks, rims and tires. So i hope that wont be a prob but ill try tommorow and see what happens. That would save me a ****load of trouble and make my day.

As for the blocks yes I did get good quality ones so i may not have to worry. Fabtech makes them and there definatly not aluminum.

 

Don't let the Dealership stick a thumb up your ***, you are entitled to your warranty and nothing you have done should void it

 

Well I'm no mechanic but I'll help ya out where I can, check out the Magnusson-Moss Act and bring that up to the stealership next time you are there...