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tbar. how much is 2 much?

Old Dec 17, 2008
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Icon5 tbar. how much is 2 much?

Doing the shackle's this weekend. already cranked t-bar a 1" or so to level it out with the back. My question is how much more can i crank it before its TOO much? I've done research and found out that all lvl 2's have the #1 bars which is what i have. I understand about have the recoil and everything in the front just wasn't sure if someone on here has'em cranked up 2-2.5" or not. Thanks for the help and info!! I'll get pics up this weekend when it done of the before and after!!
 
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Old Dec 17, 2008
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I have my bars maxed but i have the B bars. i dont know how much of a difference in the amount you can raise between the 1s and the Bs. I would like to know the difference in how much more it can raise it with the 1 bars because i would just go to the jy and swap them.

May want to get an alignment if you go higher though just incase but some don't need it. i did mine just to prevent uneven wear but its up 2 u
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008
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I have mine maxxed man, crank em up!
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008
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when they snap in half.. is too much.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008
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D. What limits the 08' tbars? No one can get much more than 1.25"? Do you think the factory torsion keys were re-indexed for 2008+. ?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2008
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Originally Posted by roddy1
D. What limits the 08' tbars? No one can get much more than 1.25"? Do you think the factory torsion keys were re-indexed for 2008+. ?
I know the 08's sit and inch lower stock then 07-.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008
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Originally Posted by D.
It doesn't matter what bars you have, its ' How good of condition are they in before I crank on them? '.

A brand new set of ' F ' rated bars will take more cranking on then an abused set of ' 1 ' bars. The elasticity of the bar itself is what matters most.

You might have #1 bars and the truck parked next to yours might have #1 bars as well. If yours or theirs has seen more severe use, the truck with the ' less abused ' bars will be able to take more tension and be more reliable.

Its all a mathematical calculation.

The amount of ' Lift ' your going to see from ANY of the bars will all be the same. You will be limited to the suspensions travel by means of hitting the bump stops for upper travel and stopping at the extent of angle on the upper balljoint. The bars themselves will only really control the reaction or speed of suspension correction.
Thanks D. you seem to have a pretty good handle on this subject. Mike H. spoke very highly of you!!! Yeah i boought the truck used and i am the 2ND OWNER. Truck looks like its never had been offroad. pavement pounder!! Me and mike already put 3 turns on the front to level it out with the rear. i was going to put the shackles on and wanted to try and level it as much as possible without compromising the front susp. too much. I guess i'll just have to try it and see. Thanks for the GREAT info!!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008
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Max the crap out of them.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008
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'too much' is never enough.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008
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Originally Posted by D.
My opinions are ' irrelevant ' by most so I won't offer it. I don't have a lift or monster MT tires so I really don't know anything.
That's gotta be the biggest load of bull I've read tonight!! You know more about the front suspension on these trucks than 75% of us on here!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008
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what he said, ball joints are cheap and easy.. just do it.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008
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Originally Posted by D.
Doesn't matter. I'll offer what I choose to. Its the way things need to be.

When Inbred/Rednek-ism is addressed, maybe some of the more technical people will start posting on a regular basis again.

Until then, crank the bars, big tires, body lift, GIT R DUN!
i like how ur thinkin D. I may be a redneck also but im sensible about my vehicles and crankin t-bars to the maxx is deffinately not a smart path to travel
 
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Old Dec 20, 2008
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I kinda agree. that's what Mike said today about maxin out the bars they really wear on the ball joints and tie rod ends. I Will get the shackles on and see where im at. I MIGHT just go ALMOST all the way but try my best to leave a lil play either way with it. we'll see what happens. Got my shackles in today so it will be sometime this week or this weekend. Santa is bringin a 3" PA BL for xmas and i just bought sea-bass's wheels. Have tires left to buy so i may just wait until i get everything together and put it all on at once. Will see. thanks D for the GREAT and more LOGICAL advice of it!! AND everyone else also!!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008
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Originally Posted by Sonic04Edge
I know the 08's sit and inch lower stock then 07-.

yeah I read somewhere they are 16mm lower than 2007.

My '02 B4000 with 31s and just the torsions cranked enough to level the truck out looks like a monster compared to my dad's 08 B4000 which is completely stock.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2008
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Originally Posted by D.
Doesn't matter. I'll offer what I choose to. Its the way things need to be.

When Inbred/Rednek-ism is addressed, maybe some of the more technical people will start posting on a regular basis again.

Until then, crank the bars, big tires, body lift, GIT R DUN!
D. you are a true intellect, your intelligence level is so high. You are above so many of us.

You told me in a PM that you own this Website.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2008
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mine are maxxed out too...and it still rides good, fair about of travel
 
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