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Torsion Key Lift?

Hey guys as u know iam lifting my truck to fit 34's under her....all i need is around 3 inches of lift to level it out with the back.....do you think these will do the trick or what???? comments opinions suggestions appriciated....i dont have alot of money for a lift or the time for a body lift....
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Hey guys as u know iam lifting my truck to fit 34's under her....all i need is around 3 inches of lift to level it out with the back.....do you think these will do the trick or what????
No. This is the same as cranking the torsion bars except it is a lot more work.
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No. This is the same as cranking the torsion bars except it is a lot more work.
alot more i attemted doin my little bros and got so mad i stopped and told my dad to take it to a shop.

but those are the ones hes got.
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alot more i attemted doin my little bros and got so mad i stopped and told my dad to take it to a shop.

but those are the ones hes got.
did it actually work? or was it bs?
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i tryed them like 2 weeks ago it still hasnt been to the shop but they look like there gonna work.there angle down alot more than the stock keys. not to bad of a price either.just took forever to get them shipped to me.
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how long was that?
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few weeks
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If you are going to roll on 20's and have shaved handles, pls lift your truck right and not cheaply.

All the key lift as Bob said, is just allowing the torsion bars to give the truck more lift. Too much cranking of the bars wears them out a lot faster and can cause them to give out. I would either get a spindle lift or body lift, you will feel a whole lot better about it.
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From what I understand when you install these keys it gives you as much lift as cranking you t bars to the max right out of the gate. So you will have alot more cranking but its pretty unsafe if you crank them past the stock bolt length
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If you are going to roll on 20's and have shaved handles, pls lift your truck right and not cheaply.

All the key lift as Bob said, is just allowing the torsion bars to give the truck more lift. Too much cranking of the bars wears them out a lot faster and can cause them to give out. I would either get a spindle lift or body lift, you will feel a whole lot better about it.
i dont have spindles........my truck is a 4wd......think iam just going to drop the back back down to a 2 inch block to level it out with the front and install a 3 inch body lift.....this is going to be a bioch but iam going to do it...
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Actually your torsions don't limit your lift ability, You can install longer bolts and get the same thing. Your upper control arms on a single bushing are what limit your lift. Uniball uppers will allow you to lift it the same amount but you will retain a lot better ride quality.
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Actually your torsions don't limit your lift ability, You can install longer bolts and get the same thing. Your upper control arms on a single bushing are what limit your lift. Uniball uppers will allow you to lift it the same amount but you will retain a lot better ride quality.

so if you got new upper arms with uniball it would allow more lift? i know someone that is selling some mcneil upper arms cheap.
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The rebound travel limiter in the stock front suspension is internal to the shock absorbers. The jounce travel is limited by the bumpers on the LCA. Any adjustment to the torsion bars including using reindexed keys will fall between those limits. These adjustments do not change the path that the tire/wheel assembly follows and do not change the maximum tire size that can be used without rubbing.
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From what I understand when you install these keys it gives you as much lift as cranking you t bars to the max right out of the gate. So you will have alot more cranking but its pretty unsafe if you crank them past the stock bolt length

Not only what Billy said, But I have a problem anyone whom uses those keys will have as well.

Balljoints.

At stock height, the balljoints are quite centered in their sockets. When I lowered my truck, the balljoints on top sort of ' jack-knived '. The bottom ones werent so bad.

I have replaced my balljoints 4 times since making a set of keys. A local guy whom has been to detroit and made some ' custom ' parts for others on this site made a set for his 05 lvl2. Hes having some balljoint issues but his are going the other way. Instead of the top balljoint hitting on the inside part of the upper arm, its hitting the outside. The same applies to the bottom.. mine is hitting the outside, his hits the inside when he flexes.

Your Safest and best ' maintenance ' bet is to put the $ towards a set of spindles and do things right the first time.

Another thing to consider.. The Torsion bars are rated for a certian weight. If you offroad at all, the weight of your truck being 3-4 inches higher on landing an obsticle will be greater and stress the t-bars more then they would at a stock twist. By re-inndexing the keys ( thats all thats really happening with those new keys ), your adding a significant amount of pressure to the bars themselves.

I use code ' B ' bars and rag a set out every year as well ( 2 if I'm really beating on them as I have been this year ) . I let off pressure and the bars turn sloppy . I couldn't imagine how fast they would rag-out with more pressure on them.
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Not only what Billy said, But I have a problem anyone whom uses those keys will have as well.

Balljoints.

At stock height, the balljoints are quite centered in their sockets. When I lowered my truck, the balljoints on top sort of ' jack-knived '. The bottom ones werent so bad.

I have replaced my balljoints 4 times since making a set of keys. A local guy whom has been to detroit and made some ' custom ' parts for others on this site made a set for his 05 lvl2. Hes having some balljoint issues but his are going the other way. Instead of the top balljoint hitting on the inside part of the upper arm, its hitting the outside. The same applies to the bottom.. mine is hitting the outside, his hits the inside when he flexes.

Your Safest and best ' maintenance ' bet is to put the $ towards a set of spindles and do things right the first time.

Another thing to consider.. The Torsion bars are rated for a certian weight. If you offroad at all, the weight of your truck being 3-4 inches higher on landing an obsticle will be greater and stress the t-bars more then they would at a stock twist. By re-inndexing the keys ( thats all thats really happening with those new keys ), your adding a significant amount of pressure to the bars themselves.

I use code ' B ' bars and rag a set out every year as well ( 2 if I'm really beating on them as I have been this year ) . I let off pressure and the bars turn sloppy . I couldn't imagine how fast they would rag-out with more pressure on them.
I DONT have spindles.....and i do not want to offroad in this truck....from what i have read and have been told i will not get those keys they seem to be bad news i will just install a 3inch body lift and be done with it
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