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What is 'high-steer' ?

hey guys

Well i am reading up on SAS'ing my truck over the winter. What is a highsteer setup?
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High steer is moving the steering components(tie rods and tie bar) OVER the leaf spring, rather than below. moving it up, greatly reduces bump steer.

Low steer:


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Comparison between high steer and stock low steer:
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small world, that axle in the first picture looks just like mine.

i wonder if that picture is of scotts jeep before he put the d44 under it and sold me his d30 haha.
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it also make it so the steering components don't get damaged if your wheeling and hit a rock or something like that.

unless its a huge rock, then your screwed.
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I searched dana 30 for pics on alltheweb.com....and all of them pics i posted came up.
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oh okay cool. So are the d44's from wagoneers regular or high steer?

Thanks guys
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Pretty sure any stock 44 is regular. You either need to drill and tap your knuckles or get new knuckles to get hi-steer from what I know.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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it depends on the knuckles, there are a lot that dont have enough material to machine and tap.

If you dont know what hi-steer is yet, you need to rethink doing your own suspension work, at least for a while...
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^^I agree with gil once again.
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hahaha

Well I'm going to try to not take offense to this... I hear what you guy are saying. Buuut.... im a truck and bus mechanic and have done a lot of custom suspension setups on big rigs so im not too concerned about my ability.

But i am new at this so I'm trying to get all the information i can to build the best setup i can the first time. Either way high steer is the way to go so I will be going with that..thanks to all who answered!
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yes, just imagine your rear end on your truck was up front. Stock the tie rod ends will be below the leaf springs, hi-steerings moves them up over the leaf springs.
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No offense guys, but Hi-Steer doesn't really coincide with leaf springs... I mean you can do coil springs.

Hi-Steer from what I know just means you have Steering Arm on top of the Knuckle vs. the standard position, buying your tie-rod and drag link like 2" to 3" of clearance.
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depends on the setup, they make some crazy sky arms for D60s that allow the steering geometry to be more desirable (parallel with the tie rod)

btw Ford Highboys and some versions of the Chevys came with driversside high steer.
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yea....forgot that little aspect of leaf and coil.....my bad....was just an example...the most common example.....
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depends on the setup, they make some crazy sky arms for D60s that allow the steering geometry to be more desirable (parallel with the tie rod)

btw Ford Highboys and some versions of the Chevys came with driversside high steer.
no, they didnt.
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no, they didnt.
yeah they did. they have that big hook thing on the drivers side knuckle. granted the Tie rod was still low.
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yeah they did. they have that big hook thing on the drivers side knuckle. granted the Tie rod was still low.
they didnt have hi steer. they had a different steering system completely. its not hi steer (hi steer is the whole steering system) and I wouldnt even consider it crossover steering, although that more of what it would be called in these terms...
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i guess but to me the advantage of high steer is to get that drag link parallel to the tie rod as much as possible. no need to raise the tie rod.
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i guess but to me the advantage of high steer is to get that drag link parallel to the tie rod as much as possible. no need to raise the tie rod.
When the tie rod stays in the stock location its called crossover steering.
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i guess but to me the advantage of high steer is to get that drag link parallel to the tie rod as much as possible. no need to raise the tie rod.
thats one, another is to get the tie rod up away from damage.

but again, the stock arms on the drivers side of those old trucks are a completely different system than a typical drag link and are actually connected behind the knuckle...
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