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Cooper STT' sin the snow?

Has anyone driven these in the snow yet? Looking at getting these or going with the BFG AT's to replace worn ones that came on it. The BFG's are great in snow and I want to know if the Cooper's are just as good. Thanks ahead of time!
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mine have done really well in the rain, and on slick roads...

but nothing compared to snow and ice... sorry, i'll never be able to give a review on the snow...
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the old versions SUCK *** in snow they where horrible. i cant say on the new version
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I dunno about the coopers, but my bfg a/t's did great yesterday in the snow.
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I dunno about the coopers, but my bfg a/t's did great yesterday in the snow.
bfg A/T is one of the best snow tires. but they suck in mud as winky knows lol
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Hey, they're alright if nobody with 35" boggers and M/T's have torn it up before you
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Nate, the new ones with siping should be decent in light snow. They should be quite good in deep wet snow because most mudders are.

It's been said many times by the northernmost people here: a true snow tire is specially designed with MANY, MANY biting edges through tread block design and massive amounts of siping, as a rule. They also tend to be softer compounds and wear quickly.

If you want a mud tire that is probably decent in bad weather, the siped muds in general are better. They're all "compromises" though. Some of them are quite good.

No experience with the STT, but the newer ones (with siping) look very good and should be adequate.

Or to put it another way: if I was buying mud tires for my daily driver offroad vehicle -- that's what I'd buy.
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I got pro comp all t's and they do wonder's in the snow and mudd!
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Ah, Shane, they are not a good mud tire, sorry. I understand what you're saying, but they're not "good" in mud the way most offroaders define "mud"...
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john, do you know what the newer ones that you are mentioning are called? if im getting my body lift for xmas (hopefully).. then ill be wanting to get a new set of tires.. but, becuase of our weather around here, im gonna need something that can handle snow, as well as play in the dirt.
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It's these: http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/Prod...ht+Truck+Tires

There are two versions. The one linked and the "STT Radial". Both have radial plies, but the one I linked is the stronger version and has the siping.

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The old version looks like this:



As you can see, the older version is the traditional, unsiped, mud tire. The new one is much more aggressive in a number of ways, including the sidewall design.
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cool, cool. i like them. do you know of any place in our area that has them at a good price by any chance???
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Yes, these new ones are the ones I was asking about. John, I figured you would have some useful insight into this one! Thanks again. Still looking for some first-hand driver knowledge as well.
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The April and June 2005 issues of Petersen's 4 Wheel Offroad magazine have some stuff on them -- but I don't remember if it's relevant or not.

The problem is, Nate, these tires are VERY new, and I'm not sure they were even driven in snow last winter. You may have problems getting much in the way of first-hand information on such a new product.
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i will say one thing, though...

the bead on the new tires does suck.

my tire place had a hard time getting them all on, without tearing the bead up...

2/4 of mine became defective, and bubbled out, off of the rim...

so, make sure that you get them put on at a place that knows what they are doing, and will warranty their tires/work...

otherwise, you might be out some money...
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cool, cool. i like them. do you know of any place in our area that has them at a good price by any chance???
Yeah, Sean: come down to Delaware and I'll hook you up with my dealer. You can get 10% off and pay no sales tax. Call me: 302-897-5221 and I'll tell you what to do.
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i love the tires, but having 2/6 defect... (6, because i got 2 replaced)...

i would be hesitant to buy cooper's from a dealer that was far from my home.

as, this may become a common trend, the beads tearing up...
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True enough, that. My dealer has been with Cooper about forever, lol. They may be capable of doing it right -- or not. But I guess time will tell. Since I'll probably eventually buy some as well.

This dealer is in far, northern Delaware, right on the PA state line, just off of I-95.
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i love no taxes, lol. thanks john. ill save your number. im hoping im getting a body lift for xmas. if i do, tires will be next! im going to have to wait and see within the next few weeks! and yeah, delaware isn't far at all, so driving down there wont be anything big.
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Ah, Shane, they are not a good mud tire, sorry. I understand what you're saying, but they're not "good" in mud the way most offroaders define "mud"...
i know your right. im not a true mudder that goes *** deep either!? but the mud i do go in it's not too bad. im sorry for all the hard core mudders
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Hey, they are better than STREET tires, by a WIDE margin -- so I think we can agree there!
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i know your right. im not a true mudder that goes *** deep either!? but the mud i do go in it's not too bad. im sorry for all the hard core mudders
procomp a/ts become slicks in mud just as BFG a/ts do...
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i love the tires, but having 2/6 defect... (6, because i got 2 replaced)...

i would be hesitant to buy cooper's from a dealer that was far from my home.

as, this may become a common trend, the beads tearing up...
see thats odd my old style STT's I had on and off about oh hell 4 times do to problems and never had the bead mess up once.
I hope the newer one's they didnt make it thinner...
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john, do you know what the newer ones that you are mentioning are called? if im getting my body lift for xmas (hopefully).. then ill be wanting to get a new set of tires.. but, becuase of our weather around here, im gonna need something that can handle snow, as well as play in the dirt.
get 15" rims for the truck after the body lift DO NOT stick with 16's the prices for 16's you will basically pass out beleave me thats WHY i dont have another set on my truck right now...
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However, if you have the "big brakes" models (2003 and newer 4x4's) then 15" wheels aren't a good option. Maybe with less backspacing they work okay, but we've encountered some problems if you recall.
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