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Getting a 'lock' lug off without the 'key'

Any thoughts?? I got 3 of the 4 off by pounding a 5/8" 12pt socket on there and slowly turning it off. The last one just won't budge... any other ideas??

The list I had:

Extractor (easy way out) - Won't fit into the countersunk hole in the wheel.

Welding a socket to the lug - Once again stupid countersunk hole cant get in there.

Loctite - haven't tried yet but might have to
 
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you are going to need a impact gun
 
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you could buy some of the same lugs from the store and use the lugs they come with? haha then you'll have new ones to put back on...
 
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you could buy some of the same lugs from the store and use the lugs they come with? haha then you'll have new ones to put back on...
Lugs were bought with the wheels on-line and to get a new key requires an identification number that is no where to be found. (The guy I bought my wheels from never sent one)



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you are going to need a impact gun
Tried it. Just strips the socket.
 
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The best bet is still gonna hammering on a socket and working it slowly off, use a craftsman one so you can get it replaced for free
 
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The service department of the local Ford dealer here has a universal kit with dozens of different wheel lock removers to fit several manufacturers' locks. Since this problem is sure to come up regularly on serviced vehicles and trade ins, I'll bet a dealer near you has the kit too. When I was stuck in a similar situation, the guys here removed a set of locks for me for free.
 
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Originally Posted by korey89
The best bet is still gonna hammering on a socket and working it slowly off, use a craftsman one so you can get it replaced for free
No matter how many times you try to remove it with a fresh non-stripped socket, it will just strip another one. It won't budge. I've been through 2 sockets on this one lug alone even tried an impact drive on it.

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The service department of the local Ford dealer here has a universal kit with dozens of different wheel lock removers to fit several manufacturers' locks. Since this problem is sure to come up regularly on serviced vehicles and trade ins, I'll bet a dealer near you has the kit too. When I was stuck in a similar situation, the guys here removed a set of locks for me for free.
If its like the extractors that the tire shops have... they wont fit into the DC-1's countersunk lug hole. But Ill give them a call and see if they can help me out.
 
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Front or rear? You might be able to get the whole shaft out and grind/torch off the back of the stud if you get that desperate.....
 
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use an impact socket and impact. hammer the socket on than hit it with the impact... Ive done it many times before with some el cheapo Harbor freight impact sockets...
 
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go to one of the corner tire shops that do oil changes and alignments and all that crap. They will have some sockets and just one pop with a good sledge, they come off.... I lost one of the key's for an aftermarket set and told a friend about it that worked in a shop and he told me to bring it by, took him :30 sec... after I spent hours hammering sockets, welding and trying to split one...
 
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Originally Posted by PlasticHero
No matter how many times you try to remove it with a fresh non-stripped socket, it will just strip another one. It won't budge. I've been through 2 sockets on this one lug alone even tried an impact drive on it.
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Front or rear? You might be able to get the whole shaft out and grind/torch off the back of the stud if you get that desperate.....
Rear, but if I am going to do that I would probably just pay the local tire shop to drill it out and then all the liability of damaging the wheel is on them.

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use an impact socket and impact. hammer the socket on than hit it with the impact... Ive done it many times before with some el cheapo Harbor freight impact sockets...
I have see my last post

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go to one of the corner tire shops that do oil changes and alignments and all that crap. They will have some sockets and just one pop with a good sledge, they come off.... I lost one of the key's for an aftermarket set and told a friend about it that worked in a shop and he told me to bring it by, took him :30 sec... after I spent hours hammering sockets, welding and trying to split one...
Yea they have the lug extractor sets here too but they won't fit into the counter-sunk hole.

I'll have to break out the caliper to see If something like this will work. Even one of the Thicker sidewall sockets wont fit in there.


The wheels I have are the Cepek DC-1's i've searched all over looking for the depth and size of the lug hole (to find extractors that fit) but came up short.
 
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I don't think you are getting anything in those wheels. My friend has those and we barely get chrome sockets in there when removing his wheels.
 
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I'm thinking I might have to throw some loctite on the lug pound a socket on there then wait for it to harden to try to remove it. Seems like my last option before taking it to go get drilled.
 
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This is the world's way of punishing you for buying DC-1's

kidding man, sucks that you're havin so much trouble
 
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I wouldn't say buying DC-1's but not taking off those lock nuts a year ago when the key wasn't destroyed.
 
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