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new tire site (CHEAP)

well i got to looking around for some mud grip tires and came across this site...i heard of it before but forgot it til now...let me know what ya think

http://treadwright.com/Tires-235_75R15_OTR-P6.aspx
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judging by the pictures, they kinda look like retread's.
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judging by the pictures, they kinda look like retread's.
They are it says it once the site comes up. I dont know how reliable retreaded tires are.
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i ran retreads on my 97 and i never had a prob, 85-90 on highways and they stayed on
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if its good enough for 18 wheelers its got to be ok for the 4 wheelers

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Personally i would never buy retreads for any vehicle i own. Especially due to the fact that i have a 6 month old baby that would be driving in the vehicle. Tires are the one area on a vehicle that you shouldnt be cheap on.
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Personally i would never buy retreads for any vehicle i own. Especially due to the fact that i have a 6 month old baby that would be driving in the vehicle. Tires are the one area on a vehicle that you shouldnt be cheap on.
I read that most tires on school buses are retreads. So if they trust them on something like that then I guess they must be okay. Though I can understand where you are coming from.
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I read that most tires on school buses are retreads. So if they trust them on something like that then I guess they must be okay. Though I can understand where you are coming from.
the only tires allowed by DOT to be retreads on school buses and semi's are the drive tires (rear tires).....the steer tires MUST be new tires....my dad always uses retreads on his rear tires......

retreads have a tendency to come apart.....most of the semi tire carcuses that are laying on the interstate are retreads that have came apart....
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the only tires allowed by DOT to be retreads on school buses and semi's are the drive tires (rear tires).....the steer tires MUST be new tires....my dad always uses retreads on his rear tires......

retreads have a tendency to come apart.....most of the semi tire carcuses that are laying on the interstate are retreads that have came apart....

i was in the middle of typing almost the same thing i use to work on semis with my dad when he worked on them. i always had to mount the tires. we put a retread on one on the passenger side driver side to get if like 25 miles down the road but bit the dust before we got there.
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Today's retreads aren't bad overall. I'd use them for my offroading set and keep "real" tires for my street set.

Problem is they have no 35" or 37" tires on 15" rims.
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Today's retreads aren't bad overall. I'd use them for my offroading set and keep "real" tires for my street set.

Problem is they have no 35" or 37" tires on 15" rims.


i would use them for off roading ONLY...
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i wonder how BFG or Buckshot likes them using their tread pattern on other brand tires...

BFG M/T's:


Buckshot Maxxis M/T's:


Green Diamond retreads:
click on link above, pictures too large....
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BFGs tread patterns have been copied by a lot more than retread companies.

When a transport truck tire is made, the carcass is specifically designed to allow for "capping" or re-treading. There is a protective layer of rubber under the last layer of wires. That is all ground off and new wires + tread material are laid onto the tire and re-cooked into place.

The reason so many of these caps fail is that the process is not necessarily what the manufacturer would use, and tolerances on these generally big rotating chunks of rubber are tight. There are manufacturer approved/owned recapping facilities that exist for transport truck tires, but I don't know anything about the methods/quality/reliability for these smaller off road tires.

Sudden loss of pressure is one thing. Sudden loss of the outer layer of rubber could damage a lot of stuff, before it even causes the tire to blow.
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True. But this company and some other that does it have pretty good reps. If you research it as I once did, you'll find more success stories than failures. Overall they are producing a great tire IF they use a good carcass.

The problem people had is in buying big sizes there were limited carcasses available and people actually got ones that looked like the sidewalls were "dry rotting". That wouldn't give you much confidence, lol.

The reports of tread failures on recapped mud tires are very rare.
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i had green diamond tires on my f-250 on all four corners (illegal i know, i bought it that way) i drive it 150 miles home and one of them banana-peeled on the way home. these tires are of extremely cheap quality. when i got home i peeled another tire apart by hand, they also gave me more than one brand of casing
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Who were they from? I believe there are at least 2 companies in the US that do the green diamond additive to retreads.

One data point does not make a trend, as I like to tell my programming analysts. A single failure, if extrapolated, makes all products unusable since all products have failures. A bigger question is the failure rate and the resulting probability of encountering one.

You can specify matched carcasses to those manufacturers, though they don't promote that.
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I talked to my step dad about retreads and he was saying that if i was going to run them only when i was trail riding that they would do jus fine but he would want me to put my street tires back on for the road jus in case something was to happen at highway speed, which i understand to the fullest.

I heard that some of the treads on retreaded tires do come apart and tear fender wells up but i was going to look at the warranty info on the site but for some reason my computer at my parents house wont pull it up (PDF file) cause unless they cover their backside in the warranty couldnt they get in big trouble if their product destroyed someones truck?
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If you're concerned about the liability issues involved with the retreads coming apart, isn't that enough right there to make you realize that running retreads on the highway is probably not the best idea?

Get some brand-new rolling stock. I mean your contact patch is probably less than the size of the monitor you're looking at. Tires (especially big ones) are subject to a high stress environment and they are the biggest peices of rotational mass you have on your truck.

You wouldn't skimp on a brake rotor, crank, cam or driveshaft right...??
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There are a lot of myths out there about retreads. Check articles from JP magazine and others where they have tested them.

Most of these myths come from retreads of past years. And most people don't try to find out what modern retreads are like in terms of reliability.

By the way: went to TreadWright (formerly High-Tec Retreading) and their FAQ says the sizes over 33" are not for street use. Just FYI.

All their other tires have 2 year, 24000 mile warranties.
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No i wouldnt skimp on that...but considering the tires will be on for 4 or 5 days a month why pay $600 for tires that will sit in my shop til i need them...
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Oh yeah if you're only running them off road give'r! I thought you were going to run em on the road as well.

I still stick firmly to my thoughts about high quality rubber, in good condition.
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yea i understand what u mean 100% and im not 100% sure whether i will try them or not jus came across the site last night and though it was interesting, probably mud stars..same thing as buckshot mudders but 30 bucks each cheaper
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didnt wanna start a new thread but i got a buddy that has 31x10.50 buck shot mudders that he will give me....they have about 60% thread left and the question is since i can fit 245/75/16 on my truck with not problems will the 31s fit fine
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31's will fit, i would get some 2" skyjacker lift coils and 2" lift shocks just to be safe.

when i was running 31's stock, they tore up my inner fender wells and rubbed all the time.
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did u have any alignment problems with the 2inch lift in the front? thats what im worried about
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