Have some questions
#1
Have some questions
Ok so I am 17.. and my parents are being like most parents now days.. (worrying about insurance)... So I wont be able to get anything 4x4. My question is, well questions. Is what can I do to my Ranger 4x2 2.3L, to get my horsepower out of it?? I would do an engine swap, but wouldnt that make insurance go up?? I really want something that I can go mudding in. I am not stupid, I know that I wont be able to do nearlly as much as a 4x4. But I am going to die if I have this stupid stock truck, and cant go mudding!!!!!
If I dont do the engine swap, I was thinking:
- bama xcal
- intake
- headers
-Thanks for the help, burnfire
If I dont do the engine swap, I was thinking:
- bama xcal
- intake
- headers
-Thanks for the help, burnfire
#2
If you want to go mudding I would suggest lifting the **** out of your truck and not worrying about the engine cuz it aint happening. Put your money into a solid axle swap or a prerunner type lift since you have a 4x2. I have the 3.0 engine and after posting and readin on these forums, nothing I do will ever give me enough power. You can still have fun offroading with 2 wheel drive. Lift it up and you should be fine. The mods you mentioned will help a little, but probably not give you what you want as far as power goes.
#4
#5
No problem. I'm not too sure about superchargers for the 2.3 engine. Someone on here will chime in about what you can do. Maybe a 4.0 swap to prevent insurance from going up? I'm not too sure. I've had my ranger about 8 months now and am still learning, so I'm not the most informative person on this stuff.
#6
#7
#8
idk I'll do the older guy talking.. after wasting a butt load of $ on a 4cyl ranger i wouldn't recommend any of it.. just enjoy the truck drive it and SAVE SAVE $ like a mad man.. then in 2 or so years sell it and something far better.. take it from someone that has invested a small fortune into a vehicle that wasn't worth it...
#10
Focus on what you want from the truck.
get some good mud tires and go have fun.
be careful of mods that don't help the goal. While an intake sounds like a great mod, mudding and an open filter that can get water logged is not necessarily a good thing. Also be carefull of free mods like hacking on the stock air box to increase air flow.
get some good mud tires and go have fun.
be careful of mods that don't help the goal. While an intake sounds like a great mod, mudding and an open filter that can get water logged is not necessarily a good thing. Also be carefull of free mods like hacking on the stock air box to increase air flow.
#11
#12
i guess i am saying don't put the cart before the horse. If Mudding is what you want to do, get some mud tires and go have fun. The needs will start showing themselves.
If you bottom out, get a lift
If the fan sprays mud all over the engine, get an e-fan so you can turn the fan off.
If only one tire is turning (which will get you stuck), get a limited slip.
the above is three things that will making mudding better, but won't necessarily gain you any HP. Yet they are more important for what you want to do.
I guess to finish off some recomendations, make sure you have a front and rear tow point to get pulled out (even 4x4's need this). Make sure you have a tow strap.
Someone can add to this, but it's a good start.
If you bottom out, get a lift
If the fan sprays mud all over the engine, get an e-fan so you can turn the fan off.
If only one tire is turning (which will get you stuck), get a limited slip.
the above is three things that will making mudding better, but won't necessarily gain you any HP. Yet they are more important for what you want to do.
I guess to finish off some recomendations, make sure you have a front and rear tow point to get pulled out (even 4x4's need this). Make sure you have a tow strap.
Someone can add to this, but it's a good start.
#15
ok you should have the twin i beams(tib) since youre a 97. here is a link for a good lift for your truck
http://www.skyjacker.com/products-se...mber=236R2KS-A
this should fit your truck and allow you to run 32 with glass fenders up front and pulled bed sides shoot. as for the lift i ahve it on my 92 ranger 2wd and it is awsome no complaints and i go muddin in it all the time, well when it rains.
here is a link to see pictures of my 92 ranger
http://www.skyjacker.com/products-se...mber=236R2KS-A
this should fit your truck and allow you to run 32 with glass fenders up front and pulled bed sides shoot. as for the lift i ahve it on my 92 ranger 2wd and it is awsome no complaints and i go muddin in it all the time, well when it rains.
here is a link to see pictures of my 92 ranger
#16
Originally Posted by ranger
ok you should have the twin i beams(tib) since youre a 97. here is a link for a good lift for your truck
http://www.skyjacker.com/products-se...mber=236R2KS-A
this should fit your truck and allow you to run 32 with glass fenders up front and pulled bed sides shoot. as for the lift i ahve it on my 92 ranger 2wd and it is awsome no complaints and i go muddin in it all the time, well when it rains.
http://www.skyjacker.com/products-se...mber=236R2KS-A
this should fit your truck and allow you to run 32 with glass fenders up front and pulled bed sides shoot. as for the lift i ahve it on my 92 ranger 2wd and it is awsome no complaints and i go muddin in it all the time, well when it rains.
#18
#20
not much you can do to get more power short of the turbo or enging swap. i have a 97 2.3 2wd, and believe me ive looked in to everything. your best bet IMO would be to lift it, get some good mud tires, and regear (or better yet, explorer axle swap + regear), and add l/s or a locker. if you get some 32's or 33's and get some 4.10 or 4.56 gears, it will put what power it has down much better.
as for the lift, look around here a little more. john griggs (n3elz) is the king of offroading with a 2wd, im sure he can give you some good advice.
as for the lift, look around here a little more. john griggs (n3elz) is the king of offroading with a 2wd, im sure he can give you some good advice.
#22
If it were mine, I'd leave the 2.3L, and make up my power with a rear end gear swap. I'd lower the ratio to maybe 4.56 or so with a locker or at least a limited slip differential. I would then find a good set of rims, tires and an appropriate body lift kit.
When it comes to tires, think more along the lines of floatation rather then just traction, if you keep it light an well balanced it will stay on top and keep you moving better. (Since your only 2 wheel drive, if the front tires sink in, your stuck). The 2.3L can actually be an advantage since it's lighter than the either V6 engines, and with the proper gearing, it will pull like a tractor. Be sure to take the overall tire size you plan to run into consideration when choosing a gear set too, if your planning to run a huge tire, you will need to go to an even lower gear ratio. Maybe even 4.88s or lower. Tires will depend on what you plan to do with the truck.
You can also do a few engine mods, but your limited there for emissions reasons. You can also consider doing a turbo motor conversion, but I think you would most likely be far better off without the added hassle of a turbo and all the added engine heat if your running off road. A properly built up 2.3L can be made to feel like a V8, but I don't think you need to go that far here.
Keep in mind that for offroad driving you will need good low end power, not the high rpm power that a turbo motor gives. Low gears, good low end torque will keep you moving though the tough spots.
Another option would also be to rebuild the engine as a 2.5L which would add some displacement, but if your 2.3L is healthy, I would work with that for now and save your money for other upgrades.
Here's a few links:
http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/c=eYjHzi...ory/4cylinder/
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/tech/?cat=2
http://www.projecthp.ford23.com/
http://www.ring-pinion.com/DiffList....nger&Side=Rear
http://www.jackit.com/bodylifts/bl_ford.htm
There's a fine line between making a good offroad capable truck and one that's no longer any fun to drive on the street. So keep it light, simple and low tech when ever you can and you'll have far more fun with it.
When it comes to tires, think more along the lines of floatation rather then just traction, if you keep it light an well balanced it will stay on top and keep you moving better. (Since your only 2 wheel drive, if the front tires sink in, your stuck). The 2.3L can actually be an advantage since it's lighter than the either V6 engines, and with the proper gearing, it will pull like a tractor. Be sure to take the overall tire size you plan to run into consideration when choosing a gear set too, if your planning to run a huge tire, you will need to go to an even lower gear ratio. Maybe even 4.88s or lower. Tires will depend on what you plan to do with the truck.
You can also do a few engine mods, but your limited there for emissions reasons. You can also consider doing a turbo motor conversion, but I think you would most likely be far better off without the added hassle of a turbo and all the added engine heat if your running off road. A properly built up 2.3L can be made to feel like a V8, but I don't think you need to go that far here.
Keep in mind that for offroad driving you will need good low end power, not the high rpm power that a turbo motor gives. Low gears, good low end torque will keep you moving though the tough spots.
Another option would also be to rebuild the engine as a 2.5L which would add some displacement, but if your 2.3L is healthy, I would work with that for now and save your money for other upgrades.
Here's a few links:
http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/c=eYjHzi...ory/4cylinder/
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/tech/?cat=2
http://www.projecthp.ford23.com/
http://www.ring-pinion.com/DiffList....nger&Side=Rear
http://www.jackit.com/bodylifts/bl_ford.htm
There's a fine line between making a good offroad capable truck and one that's no longer any fun to drive on the street. So keep it light, simple and low tech when ever you can and you'll have far more fun with it.
#24
I didn't see it addressed, but why would you mention to your insurance company about the mods that you are doing? Do you have full coverage? thats the only reason i would see to make mention. Theres a guy that shows up to my work with a 87 X4TI with a 5.0 he dropped in. He runs it in amature rally races. His insurance company thinks its the old 2.3t Merkur....
And the other thing I was curious about, dosen't 4WD help lower insurance cost rather than raise them? I may be wrong but I thought that would be helpful?
I'd say if your serious about power and 2 trackin, drop a 88 302 in that thing, straight axles with a locker and you'll be pullin chevys and dodges outa the mudhole in no time.
And the other thing I was curious about, dosen't 4WD help lower insurance cost rather than raise them? I may be wrong but I thought that would be helpful?
I'd say if your serious about power and 2 trackin, drop a 88 302 in that thing, straight axles with a locker and you'll be pullin chevys and dodges outa the mudhole in no time.
#25
N/A you wont get any power out of the 2.3, but if you plan accordingly, and buy smartly you can get into a 2.3T swap for under $1,000.
4X4 increases insurance. 4X4 trucks are generally taller, which means higher center of gravity, which relates to a higher roll over rate, not good for insurance purposes.
I get a kick that the guy swapped a 5.0 into the Xr4Ti to race with, slightly more weight, with equal (or very easily less power) than a nicely done 2.3T. Some people are just blindly ignorant.
4X4 increases insurance. 4X4 trucks are generally taller, which means higher center of gravity, which relates to a higher roll over rate, not good for insurance purposes.
I get a kick that the guy swapped a 5.0 into the Xr4Ti to race with, slightly more weight, with equal (or very easily less power) than a nicely done 2.3T. Some people are just blindly ignorant.
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