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i was going down a trail and then going over a rock my front drive made a loud THUMP. once i got on clear ground(dirt,wet leaves) i stopped completely and stepped on it (still in 4wheel) and my tires spun. i don't know if all 4 went but seemed like only the rear. then i stopped again held brake and gas and rear tires spun (no idea if being in 4wheel will prevent doing a "wheelstand") i finally got out and tried to move the front shaft with my hand and it would not move. I assume its fine? because when in 2wd, the front shaft moves freely when turned by hand.....
 
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Hubs could be bad. Also you would not be able to a powerbrake burnout in 4wd.
 
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S***. my friends 02 is doing it too. lamee....it has always made the noise but this time felt like it wasn't even in 4wheel anymore after the THUMP
 
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02 has no hubs. If it failing it's at the t case. Put both trucks on jack stands or a lift and put it in 4wd. See if all four tires spin.
 
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yeah im bringing it to a friend of mine to see whats wrong with it friday. or i might just take it off road tomorrow again but a cleaner trail and see whats up
 
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Does it go into low? If it does but still spins the rear tires only then it's your hubs. They are sh!tty. Get some manual hubs.
 
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ill try that today. it does go into low, i just put it in low for the first time yesterday by accident but i didn't drive in it i switched it back into high.
 
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oh and what is the difference between the manual hubs and the ones i have? and what would i need to make different to put them on?
 
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oh and what is the difference between the manual hubs and the ones i have? and what would i need to make different to put them on?

The ones you have are powered by vacuum. If you have air leaks in the wheel bearing then you wont have 4wd. So if your truck has ever seen water and sand/mud then there's a good chance to seals are shot.

Manual hubs are powered by your fingers. Meaning you have to get out to lock it in 4wd. And you still need to turn the ****.

You will need to remove the brake rotors then use a screw driver to pry off the stockers. Then slide on the new ones.
 
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you know how much they go for? and where i could get some

*Oh and when my tires spun in 4x4 i was on a layer of wet leaves with wet dirt under it....so i think they would spin anyway...but weird it did a brakestand on that stuff with ease in 4wheel
 
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99ranger4x4 has some for sale in the classifieds.

https://www.ranger-forums.com/forum2...ad.php?t=73645
 
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is there a way to rebuild the auto huds are is better to just go and buy new manual huds
 
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just saying because my are messed up too.
 
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so hows this work? do i need one on each side or something? and if i install manual locking hubs, what do i do with this vacuum system? does it just stop working or sometihng
 
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Originally Posted by 99offroadrngr
so hows this work? do i need one on each side or something? and if i install manual locking hubs, what do i do with this vacuum system? does it just stop working or sometihng
Take a look HERE. Hope it helps.
 
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Originally Posted by 215ranger
is there a way to rebuild the auto huds are is better to just go and buy new manual huds
The stock units are crap. You will save a lot of money buy buy manual hubs.

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so hows this work? do i need one on each side or something? and if i install manual locking hubs, what do i do with this vacuum system? does it just stop working or sometihng
All you do is take the vacuum lines out and cap the ports.
 
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Take a look HERE. Hope it helps.
will that work on a 96?
 
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will that work on a 96?
Not sure if the AVMs will work but Warn makes some.
 
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Not sure if the AVMs will work but Warn makes some.
i have to get the Conversion Kit #T27997 right it says When replacing factory automatic hubs with manual hubs, you must also purchase
 
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i have to get the Conversion Kit #T27997 right it says When replacing factory automatic hubs with manual hubs, you must also purchase
Cool! More money.
 
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Originally Posted by fddriver02
Cool! More money.
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?
I'm saying cool you have to spend more money.
 
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is there a way to rebuild the auto huds are is better to just go and buy new manual huds
You can install new seals into the front begins assuming your PVH hubs are good. You would spend around 30 bucks a side in new rubber, but it would take up to 2 hours to do a side. Pending your equipment and skill. If your auto hubs are bad they are 100 a side maybe more.



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so hows this work? do i need one on each side or something? and if i install manual locking hubs, what do i do with this vacuum system? does it just stop working or sometihng

You buy this as a kit. So it converts to manual for one price. Which a good price is about 130. I left my vac line alone on this. I did cut the center out of my stock hub covers/caps.
 
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ok i replaced my vacuum lines because i noticed they were terribly corroded. that did nothing. went down a trail and tried different things to see if the 4wheel drive worked and NOTHING. not it must be the hub or maybe soem electrical thing i assume. I got stuck twice becasue i had no 4x4 so i had to gun it to get out. may go get it looked at tomorrow if i have the time.....

oh and it was making some type of "grinding" noise on the front of the truck once i took it out of 4wheel drive and put it back into 2wheel. When i put it in 4wheel drive the shaft DOES engage but does not drive the tires so i think that may be it? it engaging but having trouble disengaging?
 
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There is a vacuum ball on the passenger side that might have a leak.
 


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