Natedog's 2000 SAS
Natedog's 2000 SAS
I guess I'll start a writeup as the project is almost done and others' writeups were very helpful for me in this process. It has been driveable now for about 2-3 weeks. I would like to preface this with the statement that this took a lot of research (over a year), lots of time and some on-the-spot solutions. The truch was down for about 10 days but I had pretty much everything at hand. Now on the the specs, here are the highlights, I have a complete detail list in Excel format should anyone want it.
1987 Grand Wagoneer Dana 44
4.56 gears w/ welded spiders
Warn Premium Hubs
Hi Steer Arms w/ Dodge knuckles
YJ brake lines
New U-bolts
Chevy TREs and Links from Parts Mike
Stock leaf pack with added middle Ranger rear leaf
1998 Explorer 8.8
4.56 gears w/ Lockrite
Disc brakes
1/2 ton Chevy leafs
Alloy shafts from DutchmanMS (6 lug)
Redrilled Rotors
Toyota steering box w/ weld in insert (welded together both Ranger and Toy shafts)
F-250 Shock towers
Rancho RS 99012 shocks
1354 Manual t-case
35x10.5 TSL Boggers on 15x10 Rims
Minor things I did which I didn't see in others' SAS threads:
I converted the front wheel studs from 7/16" to 1/2" and bought longer studs so the lugnuts would thread on more.
Buy a magnetic angle finder - makes setting the Castor VERY easy = no death wobble
Things yet to do:
The driveshaft is not in yet as I need to make a new tranny crosmember.
The t-case shifter is not in yet as I haven't yet drilled the holes through the floor.
Finish the Winch mount
Buy and install rear shocks
Pics:




1987 Grand Wagoneer Dana 44
4.56 gears w/ welded spiders
Warn Premium Hubs
Hi Steer Arms w/ Dodge knuckles
YJ brake lines
New U-bolts
Chevy TREs and Links from Parts Mike
Stock leaf pack with added middle Ranger rear leaf
1998 Explorer 8.8
4.56 gears w/ Lockrite
Disc brakes
1/2 ton Chevy leafs
Alloy shafts from DutchmanMS (6 lug)
Redrilled Rotors
Toyota steering box w/ weld in insert (welded together both Ranger and Toy shafts)
F-250 Shock towers
Rancho RS 99012 shocks
1354 Manual t-case
35x10.5 TSL Boggers on 15x10 Rims
Minor things I did which I didn't see in others' SAS threads:
I converted the front wheel studs from 7/16" to 1/2" and bought longer studs so the lugnuts would thread on more.
Buy a magnetic angle finder - makes setting the Castor VERY easy = no death wobble
Things yet to do:
The driveshaft is not in yet as I need to make a new tranny crosmember.
The t-case shifter is not in yet as I haven't yet drilled the holes through the floor.
Finish the Winch mount
Buy and install rear shocks
Pics:




The front leafs are stock waggy plus the mid Ranger leaf, only because the Waggy springs were worn.
The truck leans to the driverside some when the gas tank is full and to the passenger side when lower, just something to live with I guess.
The truck leans to the driverside some when the gas tank is full and to the passenger side when lower, just something to live with I guess.
Truck looks GREAT!!! Gosh i can't wait to get started on mine. Which width waggy did you go with?? There's the narrow and there's the wide...the wide came off a waggy with flares.
From this angle.....it looks as though it's the wide compaired to the rear axle....
From this angle.....it looks as though it's the wide compaired to the rear axle....
I don't have any pics of the hangers at this time. The front is square tubing welded/braced to the frame and the rear is round tubing (for bushings) welded to square tubing welded to the axle. I believe 02FX4? did it this same way.
As fax as wide/narrow I don't know. I don't believe the Waggy had flares. The front is slightly wider that the rear.
The roof line is about 76" (sorry ST), the bottom, the front bumber (w/out valance) is 31" and the rear is 28"
I cut the old shock mounts off a long time ago thinking that they wouldn't work, I guess they might have, I dunno.
I need to change/modify the crossmember as the driveshaft wil now be lower than stock and hit the crossmember.
As fax as wide/narrow I don't know. I don't believe the Waggy had flares. The front is slightly wider that the rear.
The roof line is about 76" (sorry ST), the bottom, the front bumber (w/out valance) is 31" and the rear is 28"
I cut the old shock mounts off a long time ago thinking that they wouldn't work, I guess they might have, I dunno.
I need to change/modify the crossmember as the driveshaft wil now be lower than stock and hit the crossmember.
Last edited by natedog57; Jan 15, 2008 at 10:45 AM.
67" wow that's awesome!! My 95 SAS'd 37s with a 3" body sits right at 80... but then again mine has fullsize axles, and 15x10's... mine is a good bit taller but at 82" wide on the outside of the tires, mine is uber stable! Yours looks reallly good though!!
ahhh OK!! lol if i took my body lift off mine i'd be sittin level with you.. but i'd have all sorts of fender contact!!! Plus I will say this, when I replaced the cluth that body lift made gettin to those tranny bolts a SINCH!
Natedog.....hey can you get a bunch of pics featuring the front crossmembers, the spring hangers, steering, etc......i think we need a bunch-o-detail pics. What'd you do for steering shaft setup?? I've been compiling a bunch of info and pics of solid swaps on rangers.....to prepare for mine.
I know my buddy has the widetrac waggy(i think 64" wms to wms) i can pick up anytime to start the buildup....but hopefully i can find a narrow waggy to throw on.
I know my buddy has the widetrac waggy(i think 64" wms to wms) i can pick up anytime to start the buildup....but hopefully i can find a narrow waggy to throw on.
Originally Posted by Fx4wannabe01
Natedog.....hey can you get a bunch of pics featuring the front crossmembers, the spring hangers, steering, etc......i think we need a bunch-o-detail pics. What'd you do for steering shaft setup?? I've been compiling a bunch of info and pics of solid swaps on rangers.....to prepare for mine.
I know my buddy has the widetrac waggy(i think 64" wms to wms) i can pick up anytime to start the buildup....but hopefully i can find a narrow waggy to throw on.
I know my buddy has the widetrac waggy(i think 64" wms to wms) i can pick up anytime to start the buildup....but hopefully i can find a narrow waggy to throw on.
Why run a waggy axle? nasty low pinion...
No offense to the ones that have it already but if I was doing it I would not be running one. F150 axle is 65" WMS its only a 1/2" per side.
Originally Posted by zabeard
Why run a waggy axle? nasty low pinion...
No offense to the ones that have it already but if I was doing it I would not be running one. F150 axle is 65" WMS its only a 1/2" per side.
No offense to the ones that have it already but if I was doing it I would not be running one. F150 axle is 65" WMS its only a 1/2" per side.
Originally Posted by redranger4.0
Then you have to mess with cast wedges. And finding a 76-77 f150 or f100 axle is much harder to find then a waggy. And in my case my waggy axle is only 61" wide so it matches my EB rear. a 65" front axle would be way to wide.
Originally Posted by zabeard
in your case understandable. but if you were to start from scratch, a F150 axle would be better. you are also running coil overs which brackets fitting in a tight spot wont be much of an issue.





