Gauge Cluster - Separating Tach from the rest.
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Gauge Cluster - Separating Tach from the rest.
Is there a Gauge Cluster that I can install in my '03 (plug-in) that only has the Speed-O in the middle ?
Maybe it would have round gauges on the side too ?
Reason: I want a separate aftermarket Tach mounted on the left of the dash by the post.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Maybe it would have round gauges on the side too ?
Reason: I want a separate aftermarket Tach mounted on the left of the dash by the post.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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I can get a Gauge Cluster out of a 2000 but I do not yet know if it i a 2x or a 4x; the odometer has 3465 miles so it should be in good shape; there will be no over-lays.
What you are telling me is the actual cluster is the same but the indicator lights that I am talking about are on the outer edge ?
So can I take the speed-o and gauges out of the 2000 and put them in my 2003 ?
Am I making more out of this than need be ?
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Clusters without tach don't have the "check gage" light so there is no way to display a low fuel reminder.
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Low fuel is not a problem, my concern is with the other indicator.
4x4, speed cntrl, that type of stuff.
I don’t think I even look at the speed cntrl when it is locked in but.
So do you think the 2000 gauge will work OK even though the indicator are not there; will the computer be looking for something that isn’t there ?
Will there be pins available so LEDs can be added ?
sorry for all of the questions.
thanks
4x4, speed cntrl, that type of stuff.
I don’t think I even look at the speed cntrl when it is locked in but.
So do you think the 2000 gauge will work OK even though the indicator are not there; will the computer be looking for something that isn’t there ?
Will there be pins available so LEDs can be added ?
sorry for all of the questions.
thanks
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Anyone ever take a gauge cluster apart and interchange parts ?
I wonder if I can use the Speed-O (w/o tach) from the 2000, in the 2003 (w/tach) ?
I am stating to confuse myself, I need a brake , more coffee, too many brews last night watching the Pats game; which we won 31 to 14.
Time to start spending and taking things apart.
I wonder if I can use the Speed-O (w/o tach) from the 2000, in the 2003 (w/tach) ?
I am stating to confuse myself, I need a brake , more coffee, too many brews last night watching the Pats game; which we won 31 to 14.
Time to start spending and taking things apart.
Last edited by Scrambler82; 11-23-2009 at 09:54 AM.
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Low fuel is not a problem, my concern is with the other indicator.
4x4, speed cntrl, that type of stuff.
I don’t think I even look at the speed cntrl when it is locked in but.
So do you think the 2000 gauge will work OK even though the indicator are not there; will the computer be looking for something that isn’t there ?
Will there be pins available so LEDs can be added ?
sorry for all of the questions.
thanks
4x4, speed cntrl, that type of stuff.
I don’t think I even look at the speed cntrl when it is locked in but.
So do you think the 2000 gauge will work OK even though the indicator are not there; will the computer be looking for something that isn’t there ?
Will there be pins available so LEDs can be added ?
sorry for all of the questions.
thanks
The 2000 connector pinout for tach and tachless clusters looks the same as 2003 except:
1) The inertial switch reset wire in 2000 has been replaced by a fuel cap off wire in 2003. This shouldn't matter for the 2000 tachless cluster since it has neither anyway.
2) The Theft LED has switched power in 2000 but switched ground in 2003. So, chances are that it would no longer work.
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I am going to go further with the questions if it isn’t too much of an inconvenience.
Can I just take the Speed_O from the 2000 (w/o t) and put it in the 2003 (w / t) ?
[QUOTE=rwenzing;1533743]The 2000 connector pinout for tach and tachless clusters looks the same as 2003 except:
Anything I need to be concerned about ?
also, can I lift the 2003 Theft wire(s) and add an LED there too ?
Sorry for all of the questions but I want a gauge cluster without a tach and there appears to be no way to get it in my 2003.
One last one, do you work for Ford, you appear to have a lot of info ?
Ok one more, if you do how about a p/n for a Gauge Cluster for 2003 4x4, 5sp w/o tach, is that even possible ?
thanks so much man,
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The Fuel Cap Off light allows the PCM to alert you to a possible loose or missing fuel cap before setting an OBDII trouble code for a vapor leak from the fuel tank/canister system. This is much more important to Ford than it is to you because it could prevent a very expensive and unnecessary recall caused by nothing more than collective driver error.
The 2003 Theft LED works electrically opposite to how it did in 2000. If you want it to work with a 2000 cluster in a 2003, I'm sure that there is a way to do it but it won't be plug and play.
That part number won't exist because all 2001+ Ranger clusters have tachometers as standard equipment.
I don't work at Ford but I do have a stack of Ford Wiring Manuals from eBay. I have couple of used dealer shop manuals, too - one for my 03 Ranger and one for my swapped Explorer engine and parts.
The 2003 Theft LED works electrically opposite to how it did in 2000. If you want it to work with a 2000 cluster in a 2003, I'm sure that there is a way to do it but it won't be plug and play.
That part number won't exist because all 2001+ Ranger clusters have tachometers as standard equipment.
I don't work at Ford but I do have a stack of Ford Wiring Manuals from eBay. I have couple of used dealer shop manuals, too - one for my 03 Ranger and one for my swapped Explorer engine and parts.
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OK thanks,
I am going to buy the low mileage cluster.
I don’t have the time to look for one and can’t seems to come up with one in the JY so I will have to buy it this way.
I was checking out the gauge cluster in my truck this evening and as the indicator go is as follows:
4x4 Indicator, don’t need it on the cluster so maybe find a way to add it by the switch.
Cruise Control Indicator - I never look at it when and if using the Cruise Control so maybe either forget it or make a new location for it.
The Theft Light - I would like to keep this but will have to locate the wiring and add it some where.
So i have three or four LEDs to add and I believe all the rest should work OK.
I will try it first as a direct plug and play and see what happens then attempt to locate the necessary wiring to add the LED.
Thanks to all for the info and I will let you know when and if it is successful.
ltr,
I am going to buy the low mileage cluster.
I don’t have the time to look for one and can’t seems to come up with one in the JY so I will have to buy it this way.
I was checking out the gauge cluster in my truck this evening and as the indicator go is as follows:
4x4 Indicator, don’t need it on the cluster so maybe find a way to add it by the switch.
Cruise Control Indicator - I never look at it when and if using the Cruise Control so maybe either forget it or make a new location for it.
The Theft Light - I would like to keep this but will have to locate the wiring and add it some where.
So i have three or four LEDs to add and I believe all the rest should work OK.
I will try it first as a direct plug and play and see what happens then attempt to locate the necessary wiring to add the LED.
Thanks to all for the info and I will let you know when and if it is successful.
ltr,
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Found an ’00 Ranger Gauge Cluster with only 3500 miles on it, wonder if that is 103500 ???? ha ha.
The pics look good and the guy said I could return it if it wasn’t exactly like I want.
The next step is as FX4Wannbe01 has stated install the ’00 cluster w/o tach in place of the ’03 Cluster with the tach and see what works and what doesn’t.
From there I am planning to add a few LED for indicators that may not be in this cluster.
I got an ’03Ranger Wiring Book, suppose to be a Ford Tech Version, time will tell, and I will see if I can find the wires needed for 4x4 indicator and the Cruise indicator then add LEDs.
Waiting for the ’00 cluster to arrive and then some testing, Color changing and maybe some LED lighting too.
The pics look good and the guy said I could return it if it wasn’t exactly like I want.
The next step is as FX4Wannbe01 has stated install the ’00 cluster w/o tach in place of the ’03 Cluster with the tach and see what works and what doesn’t.
From there I am planning to add a few LED for indicators that may not be in this cluster.
I got an ’03Ranger Wiring Book, suppose to be a Ford Tech Version, time will tell, and I will see if I can find the wires needed for 4x4 indicator and the Cruise indicator then add LEDs.
Waiting for the ’00 cluster to arrive and then some testing, Color changing and maybe some LED lighting too.
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The odo can register up to 999,999 so it would show if over 100,000. I do agree that it seems kind of odd to find a 10 year old cluster with such low indicated miles.
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The wiring book is another story, it is red and says Ford Motor Company on the cover so I am hoping it’s good and covers what I need. I will look for a Ford number once I get it and see; main thing is if I can use it.
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The factory Wiring Manual is an excellent resource and is the exact manual used at Ford dealer service departments across the country. It covers every electrical component, connector and wire in the vehicle. There is a individual manual for each Ford model and year and red is the correct color for 2003.
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I posted this in another thread but I got to thinking it should be here.
I got the new cluster, the ’00 without the tach, and now I want to re-color the characters/numbers.
The needles will have to be removed and in reading threads have read where you need to re-cal the speed-o before removing the needles; this seems a little more work than it should be ?
Anyone re-panit by just removing the needles, cold, and then replacing in the “0” position ?
When the needles were re-installed, were they in the correct position ?
I got the new cluster, the ’00 without the tach, and now I want to re-color the characters/numbers.
The needles will have to be removed and in reading threads have read where you need to re-cal the speed-o before removing the needles; this seems a little more work than it should be ?
Anyone re-panit by just removing the needles, cold, and then replacing in the “0” position ?
When the needles were re-installed, were they in the correct position ?