The Volt (non Ford)
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I will say that it is a step in the right direction maybe. It is more sensible than an all electric car. But the overall economy just isn't impressive unless you are plugging it in every night. You would probably be better off in the end with a gay(er) prius. Maybe over time they will build and improve on it. But the cost is ridiculous IMO. And you could always throw in the arguments about the batteries.
I have a hard time envisioning those prius hippies (or anyone) switching to something complicated built by chevy though. I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole, especially after reading a lot of chevy warranty complaints lately about them denying and changing coverages to people who bought new trucks.
#29
I agree this thing is expensive, but hopefully with more research and technology improving, better and cheaper batteries can be developed.
This is not my next car by any means, I just wanted to show you guys what I saw and learned.
I don't plan on ever buying a new car or truck for myself (I'm sure the wife will want one).
I think they have the right idea, but I think it's gonna take several years to perfect this technology.
This is not my next car by any means, I just wanted to show you guys what I saw and learned.
I don't plan on ever buying a new car or truck for myself (I'm sure the wife will want one).
I think they have the right idea, but I think it's gonna take several years to perfect this technology.
#30
LOL, wait until cap and trade comes and the environmental nuts go after coal like they have big oil. Then we'll see how cheap electricity is.
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Again, that is assuming that you plug it in and pay for that every day as well, don't run the a/c, etc. Any big electrical load is going to decrease the range. The overall cost of the car (and the depreciation of most Chevys) is not going to save you much (any?) money rather than just buying a normal fuel efficient car.
I mean, maybe the car is a step in the right direction...? But overall I still think it sucks and isn't worth anywhere near what they ask for it.
#32
Yeah I know but you just have to remember the car really isn't meant for everyone, to me the 40 miles without using gas makes it marketed more towards city people who IMO would be the only ones to buy something like this anyway. I'm surprised you mentioned depreciation of Chevys, because to me it seems like they hold their value more than Fords. Truck wise atleast. It frustrates me that people out there won't accept this technology. Of course it isn't going to be the best right now, but it needs to be accepted so that it can advance further and quicker just like anything else. But then again I can't use RF as a way to see most peoples opinions as 1. Its a GM 2. Its an economy car, so it is automatically hated.
I haven't seen any studies to go one way or another but I'd think Govt Motors and Chrysler had to of taken a hit on resale value. Maybe they've improved some but there are plenty of people that decided they'd never own one again. If you pull buyers out of the market prices will drop, its more of that economic reality that can't be run away from.
I also don't think any of us have a problem with economy. We'd all love to see it in our vehicles but some of these ideas are getting down right retarded. It seems like cars from the early 90's like the Geo were probably more economical than some of these new hybrids and electric cars.
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Hopefully everything that needs to be fixed will be covered under warranty.
10K for a battery is pretty bad, but the engineer I talked to said they're still working on new batteries so hopefully they'd be able to drop news ones in place of the current ones to save money and last a long time.
The EV technology used in this car is a lot better than what current EV's have.
10K for a battery is pretty bad, but the engineer I talked to said they're still working on new batteries so hopefully they'd be able to drop news ones in place of the current ones to save money and last a long time.
The EV technology used in this car is a lot better than what current EV's have.
#35
I'd love to see some shots of the undercarriage. That engine is kinda big for being a "generator". Are the wheels driven by independent motors, or does it have a differential between them and just one motor? What kind of information does that dash display? What's the passenger/cargo capacity? Are the batteries in the trunk? Lithium Ion? Nickel Cadmium? Where is the fuel tank? Does it sound like a washing machine? Does it have vacuum assisted brakes? Standard brake rotors and calipers, or electric motor brakes?
Clue us in, brotha!
Clue us in, brotha!
#36
I'd love to see some shots of the undercarriage. That engine is kinda big for being a "generator". Are the wheels driven by independent motors, or does it have a differential between them and just one motor? What kind of information does that dash display? What's the passenger/cargo capacity? Are the batteries in the trunk? Lithium Ion? Nickel Cadmium? Where is the fuel tank? Does it sound like a washing machine? Does it have vacuum assisted brakes? Standard brake rotors and calipers, or electric motor brakes?
Clue us in, brotha!
Clue us in, brotha!
It sounds like a normal engine .
The battery starts at the dash and t's under the rear seats.
Fuel tank is in the rear close to where other passenger cars tanks are
Normal braking system, the clutch pack disengages the electric motor to prevent damage
standard brakes
FWD, the driving wheel is front left
The dash displays all relevant car info
standard OBD II system
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Never mind the yellow journalistic brouhaha taking place on these here fine internets in regards to the 2011 Chevy Volt. Here's why I'm so geeked on the Chevy Volt and why you should be, too. In normal, everyday driving we got 127 miles per gallon (fine, 126.7 mpg). Which is pretty amazing. Broken down, over the course of 299 miles on Los Angeles highways, byways and freeways, the Volt burned 2.36 gallons of gasoline (fine, 2.359 gallons -- we rounded up). Most other cars use up a tank of gas going 299 miles. The Volt, to reiterate, used 2.36 gallons over 299 miles. That's freaking amazing!
Like I continue to say people keep expecting the Volt to be like this end all electric car. But of course it isn't going to be, it's a stepping stone just as the Prius is. You can't go from Wright brothers to Neil Armstrong overnight, technology has to progress.
#43
Why you ask? Well I will tell you good sir.
To let the green, tree hugging homo know that I am the a*hole off setting their carbon foot-print.
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#45
Haha, Thats my family in a nutshell. I drive a earth polluting v6 that gets 15-16mpgs and my gandpa who parks next to me in the driveway drives a prius.
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