26.8 Mpg....!!!
FireRanger The amount of money you are spending on all this special crap is going to far exceed what you save on milage increases. If you need to use premium gas to fix a ping, that is i like putting earplugs in so you don't hear it. It isn't fixing the problem, it is just making it cost more.
No, it isn't. You are being had by the flashy marketing. They use words like SUPER and PREMIUM to entice people that don't know any better to buy it thinking it does something better for their car. In reality, the only difference is the octane rating and nothing more. Octane RESISTS combusion and is for higher compression engines that suffer from pre-detonation of regular octane gas. The higher octane resists the pre-detonation and therefore works better. Our engines are DESIGNED for 87 octane. Putting anything else in a stock engine that is running properly is BAD for the engine. You are making it WORSE and it will only INCREASE the carbon and other junk in the cylinders. It is going to fire late and incompletely.
If your engine is pinging and high octane gas makes it go away, then you need to have the pinging fixed, not put higher octane gas in it. It will just keep getting worse by doing that and it is only a temporary mask.
The air filter and whatever that engine treatment stuff you said was are not doing anything noticable. The only thing that let you get that kind of milage was driving 60mph the whole way. Period. So, if you want to sound smart and show that you've accomplished something, stop bragging about wasting money on marketing BS.
As far as the math goes, it doesn't matter what size the tank is. You divide MILES DRIVEN since filling up by gallons pumped to fill up again. Forget how big the tank is.
Oh, and by the way. If you are putting 16+ gallons into a 16 gallon tank, you should probably replace your fuel filter since you are constantly sucking junk up by running the tank down to nothing. I'd suggest not doing that in the winter either.
If your engine is pinging and high octane gas makes it go away, then you need to have the pinging fixed, not put higher octane gas in it. It will just keep getting worse by doing that and it is only a temporary mask.
The air filter and whatever that engine treatment stuff you said was are not doing anything noticable. The only thing that let you get that kind of milage was driving 60mph the whole way. Period. So, if you want to sound smart and show that you've accomplished something, stop bragging about wasting money on marketing BS.
As far as the math goes, it doesn't matter what size the tank is. You divide MILES DRIVEN since filling up by gallons pumped to fill up again. Forget how big the tank is.
Oh, and by the way. If you are putting 16+ gallons into a 16 gallon tank, you should probably replace your fuel filter since you are constantly sucking junk up by running the tank down to nothing. I'd suggest not doing that in the winter either.
Originally Posted by FireRanger
No, it isn't. You are being had by the flashy marketing. They use words like SUPER and PREMIUM to entice people that don't know any better to buy it thinking it does something better for their car. In reality, the only difference is the octane rating and nothing more. Octane RESISTS combusion and is for higher compression engines that suffer from pre-detonation of regular octane gas. The higher octane resists the pre-detonation and therefore works better. Our engines are DESIGNED for 87 octane. Putting anything else in a stock engine that is running properly is BAD for the engine. You are making it WORSE and it will only INCREASE the carbon and other junk in the cylinders. It is going to fire late and incompletely.
If your engine is pinging and high octane gas makes it go away, then you need to have the pinging fixed, not put higher octane gas in it. It will just keep getting worse by doing that and it is only a temporary mask.
The air filter and whatever that engine treatment stuff you said was are not doing anything noticable. The only thing that let you get that kind of milage was driving 60mph the whole way. Period. So, if you want to sound smart and show that you've accomplished something, stop bragging about wasting money on marketing BS.
As far as the math goes, it doesn't matter what size the tank is. You divide MILES DRIVEN since filling up by gallons pumped to fill up again. Forget how big the tank is.
Oh, and by the way. If you are putting 16+ gallons into a 16 gallon tank, you should probably replace your fuel filter since you are constantly sucking junk up by running the tank down to nothing. I'd suggest not doing that in the winter either.
If your engine is pinging and high octane gas makes it go away, then you need to have the pinging fixed, not put higher octane gas in it. It will just keep getting worse by doing that and it is only a temporary mask.
The air filter and whatever that engine treatment stuff you said was are not doing anything noticable. The only thing that let you get that kind of milage was driving 60mph the whole way. Period. So, if you want to sound smart and show that you've accomplished something, stop bragging about wasting money on marketing BS.
As far as the math goes, it doesn't matter what size the tank is. You divide MILES DRIVEN since filling up by gallons pumped to fill up again. Forget how big the tank is.
Oh, and by the way. If you are putting 16+ gallons into a 16 gallon tank, you should probably replace your fuel filter since you are constantly sucking junk up by running the tank down to nothing. I'd suggest not doing that in the winter either.
Just going 60 isnt going to do it.. iv been makeing that same trip for 3 years now.. ANd till after i done this stuff i started getting such good milage.. i dont know what it is doing it but something is. I might try useing regular sometime i just think its a cleaner fuel. We ran some seafoam in my truck the other day hardly smoked at all.. Then ran it in my cousins honda accord that runs regular and it just boiled smoke everywhere for like 10 minutes. Its got like 80 thousand miles to my 140 thousand.. And yea iv put 16 gallons in it before. Who hasnt ran there tank low i meen come on...When i got that milage i filled it up. drove home and around town some. Then filled it up again looked how many gallons it took. Then divided that by how many miles i drove. Yea maybe the additive thing isnt doing ****.. Oh well. I think the cats comeing off helped the most considering my old cats were stopped up smelling like eggs..
Last edited by markw_06; Oct 14, 2006 at 10:15 AM.
Originally Posted by FireRanger
Perhaps if you read the sentance after the one you highlighted, you could then remove your foot from your mouth. You know, the part about certain engines requiring it by design and the ranger not being one of them? Thanks.
And FWIW I've been looking online and I've found different sites that say follow the car mfg recommends, but it don't say that using a lesser grade will hurt your car. Is says if you notice a difference then just step the grade up until you reach the highest grade possible and don't notice any problems. Of course if your at 93 octane and have problems then you have problems and should get your automobile checked out by a mech.
By no means am I saying that I'm right or wrong, I'm just going off what I've managed to find online and thru different people whom I know working in related fields.
v/r
Brian
Last edited by IBLKOUT2; Oct 14, 2006 at 10:40 AM.
I have been keeping logs on my ranger for the past year and when I run premium I have averaged out 3-4 mpg better so yes it does help. I dont know about it being bad on the engine but when I run regular gas from any station my check engine light comes on but if I run premiun from anywhere it doesnt. And I had that checked at the dealership and they said they dont know why it keeps coming on.
Originally Posted by IBLKOUT2
Yea about that sorry but maybe I missed something. I was running late when I made the post and might not of highlighted everything.
And FWIW I've been looking online and I've found different sites that say follow the car mfg recommends, but it don't say that using a lesser grade will hurt your car. Is says if you notice a difference then just step the grade up until you reach the highest grade possible and don't notice any problems. Of course if your at 93 octane and have problems then you have problems and should get your automobile checked out by a mech.
By no means am I saying that I'm right or wrong, I'm just going off what I've managed to find online and thru different people whom I know working in related fields.
v/r
Brian
And FWIW I've been looking online and I've found different sites that say follow the car mfg recommends, but it don't say that using a lesser grade will hurt your car. Is says if you notice a difference then just step the grade up until you reach the highest grade possible and don't notice any problems. Of course if your at 93 octane and have problems then you have problems and should get your automobile checked out by a mech.
By no means am I saying that I'm right or wrong, I'm just going off what I've managed to find online and thru different people whom I know working in related fields.
v/r
Brian
Thing is (for any vehicle), the engine will be designed to operate best are a certain octane fuel. Most normal vehicles use 87. If your vehicle is running better with a higher octane fuel, then something is not working properly in your engine. If you put a lower than spec octane fuel in your truck, you are setting it up for pre-ignition and is also not good. Most places don't sell anything less than 87 anyway. You are better off fixing the problem and using the proper gas than masking it with something else. In the long run, you will get better milage that way.
My fuel gauge is now working quite right so I drive by my tripometer, and my last fill-up on a v6 with a 19 gal fuel cell:
$23.65 paid
9.617 gallons
$2.32 fuel
182 miles
=
20.08 mpg
I have been watching this for a couple of weeks
BTW Nate If I shift into second gear with an automatic trans I get a wicked shimmy too.
$23.65 paid
9.617 gallons
$2.32 fuel
182 miles
=
20.08 mpg
I have been watching this for a couple of weeks
BTW Nate If I shift into second gear with an automatic trans I get a wicked shimmy too.
Pinging can be stopped by going to 89 Octane, anything above 89 is useless. This has been discussed millions of times on RPS. Other alternatives to stop pinging is doing the hot water bypass for those who can do it, and also Bamachip if I remember correctly. I got roughly 450 miles on a tank on my truck going to Texas a few years back, so it is possible for a v6 to get that mileage. The Tonneau cover does very little, but I don't have mine for the mileage. Its so your daughter can jump in the truck bed and me drive by your house, you won't see a dayum thing! haha!
All i know is 93 makes my truck run better.. Why change something thats good.. which really isnt costing me that much more.. if 87 is 2.10 and 93 is 2.30.. .20 cents times 16 is only $3.20 I meen hell whats 3 dollars extra every fill up.. I think premium is just a cleaner burning fuel... Ill spend 3 extra dollars anyday..
Must be nice to have so much extra cash that you can just burn it. If you are going to continue to insist that it has anything to do with "clean" despite the facts in front of you, it is your loss. Wanna send me $3 a week as well?
Who cant spare 3 dollars a week i meen come on... And upgrades do i have that wasted my money.. I meen the air filter was 40 bucks thats bout all i really have in it.. besides useing mobil 1 oil.
well if putting premium in a truck thats pinging fixes it.. When u fix the pinging noise than continue to add premiuim it has to make some kind of difference if it can fix a ping.. I put some regular in it today and yea it ran fine.. Maybe im just stupid for putting premium in.. Ill keep spending my 3 bucks though.. fine with me...
I'll try this a little more directly...
YOU AREN'T FIXING ANYTHING. You are masking the problem by throwing money at it every week and probably making it worse in the long run. Engines don't ping by design. They they ping because something isn't right. Putting different gas in it just makes the problem silent. It is still a problem. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you are gaining, fixing, or improving by putting high octane fuel in your truck. The only thing you are doing is proving to the fuel companies that there are gulible people out there to keep buying it for no reason.
YOU AREN'T FIXING ANYTHING. You are masking the problem by throwing money at it every week and probably making it worse in the long run. Engines don't ping by design. They they ping because something isn't right. Putting different gas in it just makes the problem silent. It is still a problem. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING you are gaining, fixing, or improving by putting high octane fuel in your truck. The only thing you are doing is proving to the fuel companies that there are gulible people out there to keep buying it for no reason.
Iv been running regular the last 2 days now.. and yea its running fine no pings since i put some sea foam in it last week.. Ill probley still run premium in it although its running fine with regular..
[QUOTE]Why are you using premium gas???
Premium gas has a higher octane which in turn does not burn as quicker as regular gas does, so by using premium gas it will last longer allowing you better gas mileage.
Premium gas has a higher octane which in turn does not burn as quicker as regular gas does, so by using premium gas it will last longer allowing you better gas mileage.





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