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#26
or a wastegate? just what lb of boost are you running?
basically this is an orange well designed Tornado.
a turbo setup doesnt necessarily need a bov or etc, but it aids turbo life and faster spool time. imagine ure on the gas hard, then let off, the boosted air is still trying to go in the throttle body. w/o a bov, the air will be forced backward into the turbo turbines, causeing it to spin in reverse, and over time, hurting it. a bov forces the air to the atmosphere once the throttle plate is closed.
without any of these key parts, there is no boost made.
/thread
basically this is an orange well designed Tornado.
a turbo setup doesnt necessarily need a bov or etc, but it aids turbo life and faster spool time. imagine ure on the gas hard, then let off, the boosted air is still trying to go in the throttle body. w/o a bov, the air will be forced backward into the turbo turbines, causeing it to spin in reverse, and over time, hurting it. a bov forces the air to the atmosphere once the throttle plate is closed.
without any of these key parts, there is no boost made.
/thread
#27
Originally Posted by TippnOver
or a wastegate? just what lb of boost are you running?
basically this is an orange well designed Tornado.
a turbo setup doesnt necessarily need a bov or etc, but it aids turbo life and faster spool time. imagine ure on the gas hard, then let off, the boosted air is still trying to go in the throttle body. w/o a bov, the air will be forced backward into the turbo turbines, causeing it to spin in reverse, and over time, hurting it. a bov forces the air to the atmosphere once the throttle plate is closed.
without any of these key parts, there is no boost made.
/thread
basically this is an orange well designed Tornado.
a turbo setup doesnt necessarily need a bov or etc, but it aids turbo life and faster spool time. imagine ure on the gas hard, then let off, the boosted air is still trying to go in the throttle body. w/o a bov, the air will be forced backward into the turbo turbines, causeing it to spin in reverse, and over time, hurting it. a bov forces the air to the atmosphere once the throttle plate is closed.
without any of these key parts, there is no boost made.
/thread
#29
i mean, the superchip and etc are all good power adders and etc...but the setup is just a lot of unneccessary...
the whole point of a turbo is to force more air in the engine...air powered by the exhaust...and then to have a way to add more fuel to the mix....seems like one of those electric superchargers...its not that they DONT work, but that they dont work the way theyre supposed to (but hey, they're like $30 anyway)
ure not putting anymore air in the engine than it would get in the first place. its just got a spinning fan in the intake.
the whole point of a turbo is to force more air in the engine...air powered by the exhaust...and then to have a way to add more fuel to the mix....seems like one of those electric superchargers...its not that they DONT work, but that they dont work the way theyre supposed to (but hey, they're like $30 anyway)
ure not putting anymore air in the engine than it would get in the first place. its just got a spinning fan in the intake.
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#32
but vortechs even come with fuel management, be it a piggyback or standalone...especially on these MAF truck setups, how exactly is it running? the ecu reads throttle position vs. intake speed... like how the engine stutters when the maf is dirty..the throttle is saying 75% open, the maf is saying 52%....or etc... but the throttle should say 80% open, but the maf saying 120%....
#33
#34
Originally Posted by TippnOver
i mean, the superchip and etc are all good power adders and etc...but the setup is just a lot of unneccessary...
ure not putting anymore air in the engine than it would get in the first place. its just got a spinning fan in the intake.
ure not putting anymore air in the engine than it would get in the first place. its just got a spinning fan in the intake.
#35
Originally Posted by TippnOver
but vortechs even come with fuel management, be it a piggyback or standalone...especially on these MAF truck setups, how exactly is it running? the ecu reads throttle position vs. intake speed... like how the engine stutters when the maf is dirty..the throttle is saying 75% open, the maf is saying 52%....or etc... but the throttle should say 80% open, but the maf saying 120%....
Do you tune vehicles? If not, you need to give it up! You are way off in all of your comments. This is going to produce boost!!! It cant spin backwards b/c its belt driven and with a cogged belt at that! Geez...
#36
Originally Posted by Wheatman
How do you figure??? I'm building 7lbs of boost. Have you read this thread? Yes it is the same as running a Vortech, Procharger.......Boost is Boost.
You really do need to run some type of bypass on your pressure side. I have seen chargers come apart from boost being forced back into them.
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#42
Originally Posted by NicksterSVT
Do you tune vehicles? If not, you need to give it up! You are way off in all of your comments. This is going to produce boost!!! It cant spin backwards b/c its belt driven and with a cogged belt at that! Geez...
yah, my numbers are off, but i wasnt going for accuracy, just an example.
i still do not understand...wheres the fuel? these ecu engines are different than carb'd engines...in earlier days u could put a charger on and a biger carb, the vaccuum pressure would even everything out...but with fuel injection and etc, its all timed...so even with more air being added, the ecu shouldnt realize this without some kind of management
why stop at 7 lbs....go 14!
#43
Originally Posted by NicksterSVT
You really do need to run some type of bypass on your pressure side. I have seen chargers come apart from boost being forced back into them.
I don't think anything less than 14-15 would kill a head unit.
I have seen plenty of a/s-trims running 10-12lbs without serious fatigue from not having a BOV (with a blow-thru meter) or a bypass (draw-thru)
#44
Originally Posted by TippnOver
yah, my numbers are off, but i wasnt going for accuracy, just an example.
i still do not understand...wheres the fuel? these ecu engines are different than carb'd engines...in earlier days u could put a charger on and a biger carb, the vaccuum pressure would even everything out...but with fuel injection and etc, its all timed...so even with more air being added, the ecu shouldnt realize this without some kind of management
why stop at 7 lbs....go 14!
i still do not understand...wheres the fuel? these ecu engines are different than carb'd engines...in earlier days u could put a charger on and a biger carb, the vaccuum pressure would even everything out...but with fuel injection and etc, its all timed...so even with more air being added, the ecu shouldnt realize this without some kind of management
why stop at 7 lbs....go 14!
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