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E85

my truck is flex fuel capable but befor i put some of that e85 in it i was wondering if any one has tried it yet, i used reg. 85 in my tank yes colorado has 85 octane but it made my truck run a lil sluggish so i only put 87 in it now so let me know thanks
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85 octane and e85 are ALOT different.... e85 is something like 110 octane... havent gotten the chance to use it yet because the closest place is 20 miles round trip so id be burning almost 2 gallons just to fill up with it...
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87 is minimum you should run in the truck. e85 will run through fine. it gives you a lil power since its 102 octane or something like that. Mileage decreases however.
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holly crap no way... damn im gonna start using it i have a gas station with it about 5 miles away and i pass it quite a bit... sweet thanks i will let you all nowhat i think about it.
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For the price per gallon, the alledged ' decrease ' in milage is more then madeup in ' cost per mile of operation '.
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It won't hurt your truck at all. I've been using it for about a year now in my truck. You will notice miles go down for about a tank or two tanks as the computer learns what you are burning. After that it will settle down and you'll get what you should usually get with the E85. I only lose 1-2 mpg using E85.
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I am not to sure about what trucks can use it or not.. Is the 3.0 Flex fule the only type that can use this ? I have a 4.0 you think I could run the e85 also?
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Its junk Stay away from it. If you like 10 MPG and water and corrosion in your truck then go for it. Don't take my word for it, Do soem research on it before you buy.

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E85 is not 85 octane. It is 85% ethanol. For normal gasoline, 87 is the only fuel you should be using.
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I've found some stations that had 85 ocatane but they are usually the only station around in 20 miles or so. Way out in the boonies/...........
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Its junk Stay away from it. If you like 10 MPG and water and corrosion in your truck then go for it. Don't take my word for it, Do soem research on it before you buy.

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wheres the water and corresion coming from? our fuel systems are built to withstand the corrosive effects of the ethonal so i dont know where that comes from...


personaly it would be worth it to keep money out of ragheads hands...
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Its junk Stay away from it. If you like 10 MPG and water and corrosion in your truck then go for it. Don't take my word for it, Do soem research on it before you buy.

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Its ' Junk '. Still hating it eh?

http://hybrids.autoblog.com/2005/08/...ected-results/

( Read the links folks , its an OLD article ).

"Why didn?t the mileage drop off consistently for each vehicle? Ethanol is both an oxygenate and an octane booster. That means that they may be able to improve power - depending on the ECM calibration - and offset the expected loss from having less energy. I wish the test would have included logging of the Impala?s timing and knock retard during the test, as the vehicle may have been able to run more advance with the higher blends of ethanol. The Toyota may not have been programmed to take advantage of the greater knock resistance of the ethanol, or the combustion chamber may be efficient enough to not make additional power with more spark advance. More data here would be nice."

Proper Tuning of an ECM will make up for the lost milage. Presently I see the same or better milage on E85. TYhen again, I have a laptop and the software to do such.

E85 was 2.31$ per gallon out of my pocket today. 87 was sitting around $2.80-3.00ish depending where one would go ( I went to the reservation as I needed smokes ). The E85 was TAXED by Elliot Spitzer before it went to the Rez as well.

To be fair, that article has a link to this :

"A study released from University of California-Berkeley finds that for every unit of energy yielded by ethanol, it takes 1.3 units to produce it from corn, and is nearly 3 times more expensive than gasoline per unit energy delivered. The study didn't take into account the $3B in federal and state subsidies that are given out to ethanol producers every year, which means that the true cost of ethanol is likely even higher. Ethanol is widely used as a fuel additive across the country, and in some areas can be found as a blend where it's the primary source of energy (so-called E85 is comprised of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline, and must be used only in vehicles designed for it). Since ethanol can be made from corn or other sources of biomass, it's attracting much attention as a source of renewable energy."

Regardless, no Arab sees a dime from my wallet.

Heres a ' Net Effect ' of building all these Ethanol refineries..

According to Dr. Van Dyne, "The two ethanol plants in north Missouri have added significant direct benefits to Missouri, with the Macon plant adding almost $14 million and the Craig plant adding slightly over $10 million this past year. The direct and indirect impacts of the two plants, each producing 22 million gallons of ethanol annually, have major positive impacts on the north Missouri economies, including: process and add value to almost 16 million bushels of corn annually, 1,815 additional jobs, $172.8 million increase in total output, and tax revenues of $17.7 million."

Local Jobs. Subsadise for ' Farm-aid ' are being put to use. Instead of tax dollars subsadising Farmers to not grow anything, your tax dollars are being put to use to actually have something grown.

Heres a more recent study :

http://www.ncga.com/public_policy/PD...hanolStudy.pdf

.. and another..

http://www.livescience.com/environme...ol_better.html


As time moves on, and more efficient processes of bringing Ethanol to the pump come about ( their competing against a monopoly with 120+ years of subsadies and market dominance after all.. ) , people are going to start enjoying the fact we need not becomed involved in the worlds affairs as much as we go down the road to being Self Sufficient.

To the original author :

You also have the means for a tax credit for your purchase of a Dual-Fuel Vehical. I know one member here recieved a 1500$/year credit for a year, I do NOT know if its an annual thing or not but its something to look into.

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are all the newwer rangers E85 safe? I thought I read in the manual to not use e85...
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are all the newwer rangers E85 safe? I thought I read in the manual to not use e85...
Some are, some aren't. Look for that ' Corn ' badge on your tailgate. If its not there, read your owners manual and make sure.
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There is also a different sticker on the inside of the gas tank lid. Some say unleaded only and some say it is a flex-fuel vehicle that can use E85. That's probably the easiet way to see, but make sure. I know a guy who had the sticker, was talking to the dealer and found out it was mislabeled and putting in E85 would void his warranty.
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Ok here are the facts. E85 is equal to 116 octane if u have the badge use it instead all of this talk of it's junk is B.S. . go to this link www.e85machines.com and learn the truth. I drove one for a week and a regular gasser for another and we took notes. Dayno Jane is a little off on price though. within the site u'll find a link applying for liscense to make it. That goes directly to the IRS and they give U a huge rebate. making it for about $1.25 a gallon! Lets see $10.75 a gallon for 100 octane track use only fuel or $1.25 a a gallon for 116 octane fuel for street and track... I'm taking the $1.25 per gallon. Oh and yes there are conversion kits for gasoline only trucks and cars and the 2.8,3.0, and 4.0 Ford's are at the top of the list. U can even get the equipment U need to get started. E85 is basicly 85% "poisoned" moonshine and 15% gasoline. That is how NASCAR got started. The crap that u hear that is junk, sludge and other B.S. is propagannda unleashed by greedy oil companies that are panicing for u NOT to switch to E85 because it is easy to make and costs way way less than gasoline and even better power gains than ordinary 87 octane gasoline could ever produce. Ur allowed 10,000 gallons for fuel per year and if ur making it to drink the government is ur only customer and ur allowed on 40 gallons per year. and yes better mpgs. I have read books, been to websites on this and talked to chemists about this and asked questions for 2+ years. E85 is making a huge impact. There's a guy who lives in Bristol TN/VA who brews both Biodisel and Ethanol and he has NOT BOUGHT A DROP OF EITHER GASOLINE OR DISEL FUEL FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS. AND HE HAS HAD NO ENGINE TROUBLE OF ANY KIND EITHER. Check out the link, advance ur timing change to lower cfm injectors (but better quality) and enjoy.

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