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How close can a modded 3.0 get to a stock 4.0?

With pullies, intake, exhaust, tuner, efan, headers, etc. can a 3.0 come close to the power of a stock 4.0?
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the whipple supercharger could get a 3.0 to just under the power of a stock 4.0L SOHC, if that helps any. I'd say you'd be like 1/3 of the way there with all that?
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are the 3.0s that slow?
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with a S/c and those things you could prob get over the hp of a stock 4.0
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with a S/c and those things you could prob get over the hp of a stock 4.0
they would be close
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are the 3.0s that slow?
yep, my dad says that the 86 s-10 blazer he had with the 2.8 had more power than my 3.0
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What about without the SC. I would be at around 180 hp or so I guess?
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My 3.0 doesnt seem slow but i havent drove a 4.0 either
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a whippled 3.0L makes ~230hp.. a 4.0L SOHC makes ~207hp.. add some pullies+efan+headers+performance exhaust to that s/c 3.0L and I could see it movin pretty damn good.
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I would think a bolted up non s/c 3.0 would be around 150HP. A stock 4.0 would be 180-190 stock. These are rear wheel numbers, the only way to measure.

A 3.0 in a single cab would be a decent platform if trying to run against a 4.0 since they will undoubtebly be an extended cab. There's one in town that could take me. Underdog Pulleys, K&N intake, Rogue x-cal II, and Rogue Roller Rockers, and explorer axle with limited slip. Its strong.
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Doug from bama-chips was running a BUILT vulcan with a whipple. He was sponsored and had access to some NICE goodies. Don't quote me, but I think his BEST pass was at the v6fc at Milon Speedway ( Michigan ) and he just broke a 14 second pass ( high 13's ) . He had a reg cab truck on slicks at that ( 3200lbs ).

I think for what it would cost to build a 3.0 to take massive boost, you could do better elsewhere ( If your good with wrenches and have the time ) .
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I would think a bolted up non s/c 3.0 would be around 150HP. A stock 4.0 would be 180-190 stock. These are rear wheel numbers, the only way to measure.

A 3.0 in a single cab would be a decent platform if trying to run against a 4.0 since they will undoubtebly be an extended cab. There's one in town that could take me. Underdog Pulleys, K&N intake, Rogue x-cal II, and Rogue Roller Rockers, and explorer axle with limited slip. Its strong.
I thought it was 148HP 3.0 from factory... so the S/C has to give ya about 30-50 HP abd stock 4.0s are 207HP
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I would think a bolted up non s/c 3.0 would be around 150HP. A stock 4.0 would be 180-190 stock. These are rear wheel numbers, the only way to measure.
A bolted up 3.0 with all those mods minus the s/c, would only get me 2 more horsepower? Or are you just talking about stock. Sorry, I don't understand about the rear wheel numbers thing. Are you saying that the stock 3.0 only produces about 130 rwhp stock and then with all the mods it will come out to 150 rwhp?
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The stock #'s are @ the flywheel, the #'s these guys are talkin are @ the rear wheels.

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i raced a whipple supercharged 3.0 that was all that was done to it, was a 2wd ext cab, mine 4wd ext cab 4.0, with an apten programming and it was pretty even...
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are the 3.0s that slow?

haah yes the 3.Slow is that slow lol, i dont really mind that much cause my trucks not a racecar just a show truck
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I raced my friends 00 ext cab 4.0 and it was pretty much even the whole race... I got intake exhaust efan 3.0 in a single cab auto 00 model...

Hp to weight ... every 100 pounds is 10 horspower.. That extra seat .. 4wd ,bigger tires,wheels, and added weight of bigger engine makes a big difference..
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i've gone up against a 4.0 explorer sport (2001) and won (on the bottle). The vehicle weights might be a little different, but the 4.0 used in that sport is the exact same that's used in the rangers.
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I thought it was 148HP 3.0 from factory... so the S/C has to give ya about 30-50 HP abd stock 4.0s are 207HP

I'm giving rear wheel horsepower numbers. You are quoting engine (crank) HP. There is a 10-15% loss of power through the transmission and drivetrain.

There's no way to get crank HP numbers after a mod unless you want to pull the engine out.
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Were can i get a whipple s/c for my 3.0
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At the wheels the 3.0 has ~125-130hp vs ~180 on the 4.0


so if yo supercharged it (along with all the other goodies that go with that: Tune, intake exhaust) headers you would beat a STOCK 4.0. But all the 4.0 owner has to do is throw on an intake exhaust and he'll be right there with you =(
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But what is a whipple s/c and were can i get 1
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My 3.0 doesnt seem slow but i havent drove a 4.0 either
When I first got my 3.0 I didnt think it was that slow, but then i drove Dan's (black-n-blue) 4.0 and it kills it. The 3.0 isnt as bad as people say it is but its not very fast by any means either.
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^helps that you hve a regular cab. supercab + BFGs + everywhere i drive is hills = Death
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Were can i get a whipple s/c for my 3.0
check the classifieds
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