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Old Jul 20, 2019
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Misfire to no power

Howdy, so I am trying to solve a cylinder 3 misfire that has now spread to cylinder 4. Tried to compression test but only got a couple revolutions and the truck died with all but one plug in, fuel pump relay removed, and ignition module disconnected. Reattached everything and changed camshaft sync and the truck started. Still misfire on 2 cylinders so I removed fuel pump relay again and pulled all plugs and wires. Just one click and all power died. If I pull the + battery terminal and re-attach I get power back. Tried inserting all plugs in the boots and grounding so they could fire while I test for compression and still one click, total power loss. Return truck to normal operating conditions and still 1 click total power loss. I get the same result if I try to jump out the solenoid on the started. I am at a loss here, I have created a problem that wasn’t there when I started this
*update* got it to crank, cleaned positive battery terminal connections and applied dielectric grease. Found out I have 3 cylinders that can’t make 100psi, the other three have 120,120,and 150psi. Wet test showed bad piston rings. With 270xxx not sure if this is worth the work or a new vehicle. Any thoughts or advice is greatly appreciated
 

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Welcome to the forum

What YEAR Ranger?

And if 1991/1992 what engine 2.9l or 3.0l?


You have either a bad Positive battery cable connection or a bad Negative battery cable connection, the "click" when activating starter motor means a high AMP cable, is not making good contact with starter motor or its Ground(negative cable)
Starter motor needs 60-75amps to turn engine, which is why battery cables are so large compared to other wires in a vehicle

Battery voltage also needs to be tested
12.8volts is a new battery
12.5volts is a 3 year old battery
12.3volts a 5/6 year old battery and time to shop for battery sale

12.2volts or lower is either a dead or dying battery, only about 25% of amp capacity left
 
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Originally Posted by RonD
Welcome to the forum

What YEAR Ranger?

And if 1991/1992 what engine 2.9l or 3.0l?


You have either a bad Positive battery cable connection or a bad Negative battery cable connection, the "click" when activating starter motor means a high AMP cable, is not making good contact with starter motor or its Ground(negative cable)
Starter motor needs 60-75amps to turn engine, which is why battery cables are so large compared to other wires in a vehicle

Battery voltage also needs to be tested
12.8volts is a new battery
12.5volts is a 3 year old battery
12.3volts a 5/6 year old battery and time to shop for battery sale

12.2volts or lower is either a dead or dying battery, only about 25% of amp capacity left
It is a 1998 3.0L automatic, with 12.5 volts
 
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Very odd to have rings wear out under 400k miles, certainly possible

So spark plug tips showed signs of oil fouling?

3.0ls were more likely to get burnt exhaust valves, the cylinders ran hot with 9.3:1 compression ratios, so tended to ping which raised temps even higher

If it is rings wet test should get cylinders up to 120psi, is that what happened?
Wet test will always be higher even in an engine with no problems

Have a look at local prices on used 3.0l Vulcan engines, rebuilt long block runs about $1,500 exchange
You can used 1986 to 2008 3.0l Vulcan long block, flex or gas only doesn't matter
From a Ranger or B3000 you just need to swap over your upper and lower intakes
If its from a car then you will need to change head gaskets

Get the prices first then you can decide if its worth it
 

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Very odd to have rings wear out under 400k miles, certainly possible

So spark plug tips showed signs of oil fouling?

3.0ls were more likely to get burnt exhaust valves, the cylinders ran hot with 9.3:1 compression ratios, so tended to ping which raised temps even higher

If it is rings wet test should get cylinders up to 120psi, is that what happened?
Wet test will always be higher even in an engine with no problems

Have a look at local prices on used 3.0l Vulcan engines, rebuilt long block runs about $1,500 exchange
You can used 1986 to 2008 3.0l Vulcan long block, flex or gas only doesn't matter
From a Ranger or B3000 you just need to swap over your upper and lower intakes
If its from a car then you will need to change head gaskets

Get the prices first then you can decide if its worth it
120 psi was with a dry test. The cylinders that could not get above 100psi on the dry test got up to 150 with the wet test. No sign of oil fouling on the plugs or burning oil. Never would have suspected bad rings had i not looked up what a wet test indicated.
 
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Yes, under 100 and then up to 150 would be bad rings
 
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Yes, under 100 and then up to 150 would be bad rings
I can get another engine for ~250 from junkyard or a rebuild kit for between 300-600. Truck also needs torque converter. I just am not sure whether all this is worth doing given the age of the truck. Would really hate to do all this and have more problems immediately, but I dont know how long these trucks typically last under moderate work loads
 
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400k miles on chassis in average, I am over that now on my 1994

Automatic transmissions also need service which can be expensive if a shop does it, they have clutches and brakes(bands) inside which are slow to wear out but do wear out, any slipping or overheating wears them out faster

You have a 20 year old vehicle so it will need repairs

Look at replacement cost for maybe a 10 year old vehicle to see if repair cost is worth it

Avoid 2004-2006 Ranger 3.0l/B3000 engines, they had issue with exhaust valve seats in the heads
 
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400k miles on chassis in average, I am over that now on my 1994

Automatic transmissions also need service which can be expensive if a shop does it, they have clutches and brakes(bands) inside which are slow to wear out but do wear out, any slipping or overheating wears them out faster

You have a 20 year old vehicle so it will need repairs

Look at replacement cost for maybe a 10 year old vehicle to see if repair cost is worth it

Avoid 2004-2006 Ranger 3.0l/B3000 engines, they had issue with exhaust valve seats in the heads
Thankyou capt, I will take this into consideration and make a decision. Also thank you for the heads up on the 04-06’s.
 
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