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to the person who started this post...

it ain't happenin, bro...
first of all i would like to explain some things,

I never thought my truck was going to be exactly 239hp or whatever i said from just these mods

i realize bolt ons dont exactly make cars super fast

And i would like you to know, im not getting suckered by tuner companies, im not ignorant

I realize just because it says it adds 20 or whatever hp, that it almost never does. But it will add hp, none the less. Just let me have my fun with my truck, you dont have to shoot me down, as if your all knowlegable about ford rangers.

Im sure you are, but if you guys were smart enough to get a fast vehicle you shouldnt have bought the ranger in the first place. Im just trying to work with what was given to me, i had no choice. If i had had a choice, the ranger would not be on my list, or any truck for that matter.
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So here is a list with the hp and torgue gains i will get....btw these are all dyno tested and proven numbers
mmm looks like you seemed pretty sure about the fact that you would get THOSE NUMBERS. maybe before you make stupid comments you dont contradict yourself buddy.

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but if you guys were smart enough to get a fast vehicle you shouldnt have bought the ranger in the first place
oh yeh n not all of us can afford fast cars or the insurance payments that go along with them. you must be a lil a hole 16 year old kid that got this from mommy n daddy as a "present" when you got your liscense. Have fun when you get in the real world n have to pay for things yourself.

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as if your all knowlegable about ford rangers.
Im sure i have a TON more knowledge of rangers and there motors as i have owned 3 n have worked on many.

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Im just trying to work with what was given to me, i had no choice. If i had had a choice, the ranger would not be on my list, or any truck for that matter.
Um and you do have a choice SELL IT. and if you dont like the ranger dont come on here to bash it and dont come on here preaching about how many horsepower you will get when you have 0 knowledge of them



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ok... i wasn't acting all knowledgeable.. just stating that those numbers are not attainable from those types of mods by anything i have seen after being on the ranger scene for 3+ years...

i wasn't meaning to offend you...

to everyone else, and myself... we should all be a little less harsh, i guess...

i apologize if i came off as harsh and that's all i have to say about that...

and one last thing..

"if you guys were smart enough to get a fast vehicle you shouldnt have bought the ranger in the first place"

no one stated they were smart enough to get a fast vehicle.. you don't have to be smart to "get" a fast vehicle.. you have to have the wallet or want to be in debt...

dave an julie, john griggs, john moorehead, doug... wait... lemme stop there... NO ONE ON THIS SITE... actually has that fast of a vehicle and we have some pretty smart people...

if you will take a look at the most intelligent response you got:

ie: a factual picture of performance gains on a 3.0 with 3x the mods you listed, you will see that his numbers are nowhere near what you posted...

you have your replies... you obviously wanted some feedback or you wouldn't have posted here...

yeah, some feedback might have been a little harsh, but alot of people here are very intelligent and know what DOES AND DOESN'T work or add up on a ford ranger pickup...

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Wow....Christian is really confused.

He put me in the same class as Dave, John G., and Doug. How the hell did I make that list??

****, I almost feel important now.

Thanks for the props!!
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Hey everybody, look, its John Kerry. :D
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i just said you were smart
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I think the primary issue here is you just can't take performence part claims to HP or torque increaes and add them up as the parts are installed.
Some might even cancel each other out, and besides they all 'claim' increases over stock engine.
After the first modification you are no longer beginning with a stock base.
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i just said you were smart
Gee, thanks! :roll:

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well i didnt mean to offend anyone, i know you guys know alot about rangers and their engines.

i just felt like you were a we bit harsh on me, but thats ok, i guess i have been too at some point and time

as for me contradicting myself, i guess i did and am sorry for that

but i do have a question for you. after these parts i put on my ranger and with that cam i put a link with, how much hp and torque should i expect to get out of my work (not for sale ever) truck
and what would be the difference between a jet chip and this baha chip?
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hmm dont expect ne thing n then youll be happy with the results honestly forgo all that crap save your money n buy the whipple it will prolly cost less time n effort wise as well as cash wise and youll get REAL GAINS. its a bama chip works good but if you want the whipple dont buy it cause you cant use it then
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hmm dont expect ne thing n then youll be happy with the results honestly forgo all that crap save your money n buy the whipple it will prolly cost less time n effort wise as well as cash wise and youll get REAL GAINS. its a bama chip works good but if you want the whipple dont buy it cause you cant use it then
well actually the whipple only works on 2002 and up

i have 2001, i called them last january and asked them about it, and they said i couldnt even makes mods for it to fit, they seemed a little rude about it too
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look for posts made by doug hes got a ton of info on how to make it work
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Yeah, it's should be possible, just not exactly a bolt on type deal.

I still hope you're gonna get those parts installed. I'm interested to see what the improvement will be. And you should get a baseline of somekind before and after the mods. This means a drag strip or a dyno.

Best of luck to you!
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yeh cause with out a basline on paper youll have no proof of ne gains no matter how big or small they may be
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Yeah, it's should be possible, just not exactly a bolt on type deal.

I still hope you're gonna get those parts installed. I'm interested to see what the improvement will be. And you should get a baseline of somekind before and after the mods. This means a drag strip or a dyno.

Best of luck to you!
yes, thank you, i will make sure to test it before and after mods, except the headers and exhaust are already on, so ill just have that as my baseline

so the supercharger can fit?! sweet deal, ill look into it
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dave an julie, john griggs, john moorehead, doug... wait... lemme stop there... NO ONE ON THIS SITE... actually has that fast of a vehicle and we have some pretty smart people...
I think the 929 can hold it's own with the vast majority of things out there.
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He's got a point.
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hmmm... I got a ranger to be a good looking work truck that had some nice features so I would enjoy it. For the price, options and looks I dont think yu can beat the Edge Package. I got a 6-Disc MP3 Player/ decent stereo, power everything.. plus Vinyl floors that are easy to clean... for a work truck this is very important. Plus the 3.0 with the 4.11 rear is good enough to gge the job done.

I on the other hand like fast cars. So, I keep and older camaro to play with. I would suggest you want somethign cheap that responds to mods well. Get an 93 up Z/28 or Trans Am... or if you keen on keeping to ford, get a mustang of any year that has a Fuel Injected 5.0(not 4.6 unless its a DOHC Cobra) Parts/Bolt Ons and real parts are plentiful and resonably cheap when compared to Import or Ranger Mods. And they add a lot more power. Plus take for instance my Z, I started out running a 14.2 stcok with 90,000 miles on street tries.

Just add a short shifter, Exhaust, Nitrous Kit, CAI, and race slicks... Boom I was in the 12.6X range.

Then I added some suspension stuff, a CAI kit, underdrive pulley and a few other small things and I cracked off a 12.2X with clutch slippage. I think it has an 11.9 in it without removing the valve covers on the juice. I think some long tubes and a larger throttlebody with a tighter clutch will get it there... Then I might go to a 383 with a nice cam and some head work. Only problem there is once I get past a 11.9, CAGE time!!!

Simple Statement.. Rangers are not "performance" Vehicles. Though they can be bulit to be nice street or offrad trucks and be very enjoyable. Just don't think bolt ons in either the 4.0 or especially the 3.0 will make a performance truck. Now if we start talking swapping in a V8.. you will have a full fram and about the same weight as a full optioned F-body.

Just my $.02. I didnt buy my ranger based off it performance or performance potential.
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HAHHA....There was a guy on RPS who dyno'd his truck with a K and N Filter.....He had more power with the STOCK filter setup on one of the runs. He also did a dyno with exhaust....same results. The only "bolt on" mod that really give you much power is a chip and I highly recommend that you get a BAMA chip if you go that route. Good luck dude....but it will not happen.

*edit...here's the link.

http://www.jackphelps.com/ranger/ranger.htm

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MAF mod on 2003 and older 3.0ls are worth while, and it's free. I dropped almost a second off my eigthth mile timeslip with that mod alone.

But just saying that someone got an exhaust and it dyno'd for less HP means nothing because not all exhaust systems are the same.

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Jason, I love that sig!

I don't need to state the obvious. Everyone has already said it. Just be happy with whatever gains you make. I've had my 2.3 for 9 years now and would love to make it faster but I just don't see a point in putting all that money into a 2.3 when I could just drop a V8 in it. I'm just waiting for the engine to go out. Damn Ford and their engineering!
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Stock 3.0L V6 has 155hp and 185 torgue on my 2001 model

JBA Headers= 20hp, 26torque
JBA EVOL exhaust= 15hp, 25 torque
JBA spark plug wires= 5hp, 8 torque
K&N FIPK= 16hp, 20 torque
Performance cooling fan= 12hp, 16 torque
JET chip= 16 hp, 20 torque

That comes to a grand total of 239 horsepower, with 320 ft/lb or torque!
If building engines was that easy, then all of those honda civics with bolt ons would have 200+ horses without even touching the block. Good luck, but I see no way youre going to come close to those projected numbers.

BTW, bigger wires doesnt mean bigger spark. Youre still using stock distributor. Also, bigger exhaust to expend all that air you will be sucking in with that factory air box and intake. Dont forget the better combustion with those factory injectors.
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I thought about this while I was out. I shouldnt have flamed like I did. I was pretty much telling the truth, but in a sarcastic way. Sorry. Anyways, you want my honest opinion? There are things you can do that will increase the value of the truck (to the right person) and still make you the envy of the mini truckers out there. Plus, you could probably find a shallow girl out there that thinks you have some fat bank and actually allow you to get your little man wet.

1) If you have a 2wd: Lower it, put some wheels on it and put in a stereo. Maybe even do a body kit.

2) If you have a 4wd: Raise it, put some wheels on it and put in a stereo. Maybe even do a body kit or some sweet bumpers and a winch.

If you do engine mods, when you eventually sell it, people are going to think that you ragged it out. To me, that would be a huge turn off. Plus, who are you going to race and beat? Geo Storm? Another Ranger? A Moped w/ Nitrous... well, maybe.

Anyways, do body and stereo mods. I really think its the best way to go and all the guys will think you have huge round & harries cause your ride is pimp and sounds good. Rangers arent meant to be fast and most people dont expect it of them. If youre wanting to knock people's socks off, then just drop in a V8, then we can talk bolt ons.
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I know of at least 2 blue rangers, one on this site, and one on RPS that would put a hurtin on that Z28 with 2 less cyl.
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