WTF?? Did Ford Have a Bad day??
#1
WTF?? Did Ford Have a Bad day??
This has been bugging me for a while now..
I have a 2002 Edge with the 3.0 Vulcan
About a month ago I did a tune-up on my ranger and I was quite disturbed.. I changed the plugs and wires and was shocked to find that the plugs were very badly worn and some of the ceramic material was cracked on the plugs. That wasn't the worst part, the plugs in the left bank were not the same as the plugs from the right bank...
I don't mean they were the same style but different numbers, I mean they weren't even the same size or material... The left bank was platinum and the right bank was ordinary plugs.. I'm a Part Sales Manager for my local Autozone here in my town, I work with parts all day so I know two different plugs when I see them. Also; my truck only had 12,865 miles on it when I did this.... I couldn't figure out why the plugs were cracked....
Has anyone else run into a problem like this?? Have you had the original plugs be different?? I called the Dealership that I bought the truck from and they had no explanation for it and said that they would have to see the plugs for themselves. So I brought them up to them and showed them and they just said that it wasn't a big deal and saw no problem...
I have a 2002 Edge with the 3.0 Vulcan
About a month ago I did a tune-up on my ranger and I was quite disturbed.. I changed the plugs and wires and was shocked to find that the plugs were very badly worn and some of the ceramic material was cracked on the plugs. That wasn't the worst part, the plugs in the left bank were not the same as the plugs from the right bank...
I don't mean they were the same style but different numbers, I mean they weren't even the same size or material... The left bank was platinum and the right bank was ordinary plugs.. I'm a Part Sales Manager for my local Autozone here in my town, I work with parts all day so I know two different plugs when I see them. Also; my truck only had 12,865 miles on it when I did this.... I couldn't figure out why the plugs were cracked....
Has anyone else run into a problem like this?? Have you had the original plugs be different?? I called the Dealership that I bought the truck from and they had no explanation for it and said that they would have to see the plugs for themselves. So I brought them up to them and showed them and they just said that it wasn't a big deal and saw no problem...
#2
don't know why they would be cracked, but as for diff. numbers, the polarity is reversed - left bank vs. right bank. when replacing it's best to use double platnum plugs, then polarity isn't an issue. I may not have all the terminology correct, but I think you get the idea of what I'm trying to say. possibly someone with more knowledge will chime in.
#3
Your insulators should not be cracked but it is not related to the two different spark plugs.
The plugs in the right and left banks are different because each pair of plugs shares a coil in the triple coil pack. The current flow through the DS bank of cylinders is opposite that of the PS bank. Look again at the electrodes and you will see that the plugs from one bank have the platinum nub on the center electrode and the other bank's plugs have it on the side electrode. The platinum is there to prevent electrode erosion, so its position is determined by the current flow through the plug.
Using the two different single platinum plugs saves a very small amount of money on each plug during original production that adds up when building so many engines.
The replacement plugs have platinum on both electrodes (double platinum) to revent installation errors during field service - one plug is correct for all 6 cylinders.
The plugs in the right and left banks are different because each pair of plugs shares a coil in the triple coil pack. The current flow through the DS bank of cylinders is opposite that of the PS bank. Look again at the electrodes and you will see that the plugs from one bank have the platinum nub on the center electrode and the other bank's plugs have it on the side electrode. The platinum is there to prevent electrode erosion, so its position is determined by the current flow through the plug.
Using the two different single platinum plugs saves a very small amount of money on each plug during original production that adds up when building so many engines.
The replacement plugs have platinum on both electrodes (double platinum) to revent installation errors during field service - one plug is correct for all 6 cylinders.
#4
I have heard of ways to save money on each car and it makes sense $1 a car time a million cars is a million dallors saved, but man thats a new one.
So stock plugs are all single platium but on side has the platinum on the center electrode and the other has the platinum on the side electrode, man talk about counting your pennies. but whatever works i guess.
So stock plugs are all single platium but on side has the platinum on the center electrode and the other has the platinum on the side electrode, man talk about counting your pennies. but whatever works i guess.
#5
Originally Posted by rwenzing
The replacement plugs have platinum on both electrodes (double platinum) to prevent installation errors during field service - one plug is correct for all 6 cylinders.
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#8
Originally Posted by jmacmaster
Are you sure about this? Does the Owner's Manual address this and tell you what to use for replacement plugs? (I don't have access to my Owner's Manual at the moment.)
4.0L SOHC's have the same plugs right and left side from the factory. These are FP series plugs which the Motorcraft site calls "finewire" platinum. They are all the same part number, original or replacement, right or left bank.
#10
Honestly, I checked the computer again at work and it said that the OEM plugs were double platinum..
When I changed the plugs I just put 6 Autolite Dbl Platinum's in and the truck runs great.. I just didn't understand why they looked so bad after only 12K+ miles..
But the odd thing about it all, is the Ford Service Manual talks about how the plugs are not the same from left to right bank.. It does however say that the best replacement is DBL Platinum all around though... Interesting..
When I changed the plugs I just put 6 Autolite Dbl Platinum's in and the truck runs great.. I just didn't understand why they looked so bad after only 12K+ miles..
But the odd thing about it all, is the Ford Service Manual talks about how the plugs are not the same from left to right bank.. It does however say that the best replacement is DBL Platinum all around though... Interesting..
#13
Originally Posted by VulcanMotor~PowerHouse
Since I haven't had the chance to get up close and personal with a 4.0 SOHC ranger motor.. Are the plugs and wires that hard to change?
#14
#15
Originally Posted by VulcanMotor~PowerHouse
OUCH!!
For you 4.0L Owners out there, my apologies.. That sucks!!
For you 4.0L Owners out there, my apologies.. That sucks!!
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