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WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! WAIT!!!! What The ****? YOU ARE BOTH WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!Since when did Santa become Imaginary?
 
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Originally Posted by Takeda
There is a lot of information on dynos, and the different techniques to measure horsepower, AND torque directly,
Directly from your link:

"Power = Torque x RPM / 5252 "


Try again..
 
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Originally Posted by Spirochets
WAIT! WAIT! WAIT! WAIT!!!! What The ****? YOU ARE BOTH WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!Since when did Santa become Imaginary?


ho ho ho.. I know when it started for me. When your first child looks up with those puppy dog eyes and tells you want they want santa to bring them.
 
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Originally Posted by Takeda
There is a lot of information on dynos,
Actually.. there are three different kinds of dynos commonly used for cars/trucks and engines. Most of them *don't* actually measure the torque. They calculate it. (like dynojet)

When tuning a engine this is a ball park way to get you close. But until you load the engine like it'll be loaded on the road/dragstrip you won't get it deadly accurate.

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Originally Posted by wydopnthrtl
Directly from your link:

"Power = Torque x RPM / 5252 "


Try again..
Like I said, there are many measurement techniques, look at this:

In its most basic form, a rear wheel dyno is a fixed inertia-only type device in that it does not actually measure an engine's torque output using an absorption unit. Instead, the motorcycle's rear wheel accelerates a heavy roll of known mass and inertia. The dyno measures the time and rate of acceleration to a given engine speed at wide-open throttle (WOT) conditions. Torque and horsepower are then calculated by software from the time and acceleration rate. The more rapidly the heavy steel drum is accelerated to a given rpm, the greater the engine's horsepower.
 
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Originally Posted by Takeda
Like I said, there are many measurement techniques, look at this:

In its most basic form, a rear wheel dyno is a fixed inertia-only type device in that it does not actually measure an engine's torque output using an absorption unit. Instead, the motorcycle's rear wheel accelerates a heavy roll of known mass and inertia. The dyno measures the time and rate of acceleration to a given engine speed at wide-open throttle (WOT) conditions. Torque and horsepower are then calculated by software from the time and acceleration rate. The more rapidly the heavy steel drum is accelerated to a given rpm, the greater the engine's horsepower.
Thats exactly how the dynojet series work. They *measure* neither.



Now.. answer the original question. Maybe you could show us a horsepower wrench?
 
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Stop posting pics of little import cars. one or 2 would have been sufficient, I don't think those fall into the discussion of the origional thread their useless, they get tons of money put into them, get trailered to SEMA, if their LUCKY thrown on a dyno for bragging rights then go to shows until their stripped for parts for the next car..

Horsepower = how fast you hit the wall
torque = how HARD you hit the wall

..discussion closed


Both the 4.0 OHV and 4.0 I6 in Jeeps are strong, bullet proof motors.
 
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Originally Posted by 99ranger4x4
Stop posting pics of little import cars. one or 2 would have been sufficient, I don't think those fall into the discussion of the origional thread their useless, they get tons of money put into them, get trailered to SEMA, if their LUCKY thrown on a dyno for bragging rights then go to shows until their stripped for parts for the next car..

Horsepower = how fast you hit the wall
torque = how HARD you hit the wall

..discussion closed


Both the 4.0 OHV and 4.0 I6 in Jeeps are strong, bullet proof motors.
The qoute is HP is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you drag it.
 
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Getting back to the original point..

Originally Posted by God,Country,FORD
what would it take to make our OHV's like a "high output" build?
IMO a longer stroke crank, ported heads, a matching cam, and a good rotational balance would be a solid rebuild to get you a "HO" engine.

Our 4.0L castings are pretty weak so I'd not push one of these things too hard w/o a really really good balance job.

A good benchmark would be to check out what SUPER SIX MOTORSPORTS is offering.
 
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The qoute is HP is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you drag it.
wrong
the quote i saw was the one i typed
 
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thanks guys.. didnt mean to start a heated debate..
 
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Originally Posted by God,Country,FORD
thanks guys.. didnt mean to start a heated debate..
LOL.. you didn't start anything. bob likes to pick on me specifically and does so in a lot of other threads.

No worries..
 
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