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Mobil 1 0w-30

I was wondering if any of you have ever used a 0w-30 motor oil in your truck. According to Mobil's web site this oil is appropriate where ever a 5w-30, or 10w-30 is called for - it also meets Ford's WSS-M2C929-A spec, so it would meet warranty requirements. It also claims that this oil can provide better fuel economy - something all of us 4.0 guys crave! This information is taken directly from Mobil's web site...




"Product Description

Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is an advanced high performance synthetic engine oil designed to deliver outstanding engine protection and enhanced fuel economy. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy exceeds the requirements of the latest industry standards and outperforms conventional oils. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 and 10W-30 applications.



Features and Benefits

Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is engineered with a proprietary blend of high performance synthetic basestocks fortified with the Supersyn anti-wear component system. The low friction, fully synthetic formulation increases engine efficiency and offers outstanding fuel economy. Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy provides the high-temperature protection of 5W-30 and 10W-30 oils while offering improved fuel economy. Key features and benefits include:




Features
Advantages and Potential Benefits
Low friction, fully synthetic formula Helps to increase engine efficiency and improve fuel economy up to 2%, based on a comparison versus those grades most commonly used. Actual savings are dependent upon vehicle/engine type, outside temperature, driving conditions, and your current engine oil viscosity.
Outstanding thermal and oxidation stability Reduces oil aging resulting in longer lasting protection
Outstanding low temperature capabilities Quick cold weather starting and fast protection helps extend engine life
Supersyn antiwear component system Excellent overall lubrication and wear protection performance for all driving styles and conditions where a 5W-30, 10W-30 or 0W-30 is recommended

Applications

Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for SAE 0W-30, 5W-30 and 10W-30 applications in all types of modern gasoline fueled passenger cars, SUVs, vans and light trucks.

Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is engineered to deliver outstanding engine protection and improved fuel economy.
Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy is recommended for extreme cold conditions to deliver quick starts and fast lubrication.
Mobil 1 is not recommended for 2-Cycle or aviation engines, unless specifically approved by the manufacturer.




Specifications and Approvals


Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy meets or exceeds the following industry specifications

ACEA A1,B1
API SM,SL,SJ,EC,CF
ILSAC GF4
Ford WWS WSS -M2C929-A
General Motors GM 4718M,GM6094M
Chrysler MS 6395


Typical Properties

Mobil 1 0W-30 Advanced Fuel Economy

SAE Grade 0W-30
Viscosity, ASTM D 445
cSt @ 40C 63.1
cSt @ 100C 11.0
Phosphorous 0.08
Sulfated Ash, wt%, ASTM D 874 1.0
HTHS Viscosity, mPas @ 150C ASTM D 4683 2.99
Flash Point, C, ASTM D 92 228
Total Base Number (TBN) 8.5
MRV @ -40 c 11,100
Density @15 C kg/l, ASTM D 4052 0.845"
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i havnt but i need to change my oil soon again so ill give it a shot...
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I've been using Amsoil's 0W30 synthetic in my Ranger for some time now. It's a 3.0 though.
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I couldn't help thinking that it might help those of us with the "timing chain rattle", by allow the tensioners to be lubed quicker.
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I've been using Amsoil's 0W30 synthetic in my Ranger for some time now. It's a 3.0 though.
I just switched to Amsoil 0W30 in my 4.0. Man did it ever quiet the truck down. I didn't think it was noisy before, but it just purrs now and seems to run much smoother. I haven't driven far enough to know on the mileage yet, but every other vehicle that I switched to Amsoil, I gained 1-2 mpg.
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I tried running a 5w-20 with no fuel mileage gains that were noticable, even after two changes of it, my average fuel mileage didn't change. 0w30 would be great for cold starts, but once you get the engine to temp, you'll be back to where you started with your 5w30
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i havnt but i need to change my oil soon again so ill give it a shot...
Please keep us posted, I'm about 1700 miles away from my next oil change!
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I tried running a 5w-20 with no fuel mileage gains that were noticable, even after two changes of it, my average fuel mileage didn't change. 0w30 would be great for cold starts, but once you get the engine to temp, you'll be back to where you started with your 5w30
That oil is too thin for the 4.0, it is still one of the few engines that Ford still specs a 30 weight for.
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i am running that oil in my girls 3.0 dohc Ford fusion it works great that car is quiet except for the two flowmasters on it.
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Oil weights are measured by a piston pushing oil though a oriface. They count the amount of strokes vs volume flowed it takes to determine a oil "weight" at a given temp. And most importantly there is a *numerical range of stokes* in which the oil must fall into to be classified.

Long story short.. the higher the difference between the cold flow number and the hot flow number (0W-30 in this post) the thinner the oil will be.. but yet the more additives it'll have to help gain back the hot run qualities.

It's true that it will improve mileage. But you'll have more piston noise and more likely more timing chain noise. Also, as you put mileage on the oil the additives become less effective.

I personally run a 10w-30 mobil 1 in all my cars. Yes I'm giving up a small percentage on MPG. But the motor is quiet and even in michigan winter temps I have no cold start problems. I'm also able to leave the oil in there a little longer and don't really worry about the additives.

Now if I were just leasing a car.. I'd use the cheapest stuff I could find.

Here is some lite reading on oil:
http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html

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