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lol its 49 cubic inches bigger lol...

overall size its just little bigger
REALLY? Never would have guessed
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you asked a vague question get an answer lol..
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I want simple yet powerful. I want the headers on the inside of the frame not outside. so its got to be somewhat decent in size.
Why on the inside? ALOT easier on the outside....Almost ALL drag cars have them on the outside. Even my dads chevelle had them on the outside.

I don't think anything bigger then a 302 you could go inside.
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Why on the inside? ALOT easier on the outside....Almost ALL drag cars have them on the outside. Even my dads chevelle had them on the outside.

I don't think anything bigger then a 302 you could go inside.
agree 302 is even extremely tight in the frame rails..
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you asked a vague question get an answer lol..
Everyone else seemed to know what I was asking
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anyone know if the 1997 F250s were ODBII? They should have the roller 351.
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agree 302 is even extremely tight in the frame rails..

Search RPS, they have a Spec sheet, and there is a nice build of a 4.6 L out of a grand marqui.

If I where to do a swap if would be getting a Grand Marqui VIII I think 92-94 if I am right? Same engine as the Cobras I seen one in the Indiana Auto for $1700. It only had 80,000 miles. (the entire car!!!!)

The 4.6 was very tight....I would have went over the frame rails unlike the guys build did. It looked he restricted a lot of flow. If your worried about looks I would just paint them black, and run them down the frame rail.
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anyone know if the 1997 F250s were ODBII? They should have the roller 351.
Full sizers where exept from OBD-II for longer then vehicles that started in 1996 alot of the trucks are not in 1997 in the larger style...
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Josh why do i have to search RPS lol? wrong quote?
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Josh why do i have to search RPS lol? wrong quote?
I don't know lol
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Full sizers where exept from OBD-II for longer then vehicles that started in 1996 alot of the trucks are not in 1997 in the larger style...
i was afraid of that. if it was odbii then i could have went a bit different route.
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Didnt feel like reading everything so sorry if this a repeat post.

I would suggest a 5.0 HO MAF out of an 87-93 Mustang. The years and availability may be a little different, I've seen some HOs in F150s and some later Mustangs as well as Lincolns and T-Birds. The HOs, 92 and prior, usually have forged pistons. The aftermarket for the HOs is incredible, you cant go wrong. If you want to swap heads for like Explorer GT40 heads or something there's several options out there.

My cousins last drag car was a fox body Mustang with a 351, C4, and 8.8 rear. He was running high 10s at sea level with a beefy cam and a 250 shot of nitrous and never broke anything in the motor, tranny, or rear. Granted, everything was custom built to handle it. A C4 and the Dana 60 would be more than fine. Transfer case, I have no idea, an Atlas would be nice.
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i was afraid of that. if it was odbii then i could have went a bit different route.
its hit and miss need to go look at the truck some have the port in the dash in them middle if its under the hood good bet its obd-i also there should be a sticker on the rad support stating if its compliant with obd-ii
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its hit and miss need to go look at the truck some have the port in the dash in them middle if its under the hood good bet its obd-i also there should be a sticker on the rad support stating if its compliant with obd-ii
yeah, idk what i want to do right now. too confusing. it all ends up this way every time!
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how does that work? i thought the trans would go into limp mode.
yeah i assumed that too. But i have zero speed signal coming into my abs module, no speedo or abs right now. I figured it was my rear sensor, but it checks out fine. I need to go through my wiring and check back with the guy who helped me and figure out what/if we bypassed something to make it work. Cause i'm definetly not in limp mode


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yeah, idk what i want to do right now. too confusing. it all ends up this way every time!
haha man, just sit back and take some time to look at your truck for a while.
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beard, ive been thinking the same thing. my bro inlaw has had like 13 stangs and we just swapped out 2 5.0's i think theres a 5.0 block and possibly c4 (i think) tranny sitting in my garage lol.
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When are you planning on doing the swap, Zach? I'll be doing mine in about 15 months, so I'm just looking up stuff too.
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i cant wait to see a 302 in your truck its going to be sweet you should just build a sweet 347 stroker motor with a s/c
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My suggestion:
302 roller block,
bore it 0.030" over if needed,
Forged pistons,
Crane 2030,
roller 1:6/1:7s,
AFR 165 or GT40X/Y heads,
Explorer GT40 upper & lower,
#24 injectors,
70mm MAF #24,
A9P,
C4,
Explorer front dress,
late 60's Mustang Tri-Ys (if they work with your frame & C4).

Would have bottom end grunt like a freight train.
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Would have bottom end grunt like a freight train.

And **** like a cannon!
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roller 351s are found in 1994 and later F-series and BKO's, block code F4TE.
what does being OBD-1 or OBD-2 have to do with anything?

302:
Height: 27.5"
Length: 29"
Width: 24


351:
Height: 29"
Length: 29"
Width: 25
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thanks for the specs!

I cant make up my mind at all. Time will tell I guess. I have access to a 302 HO and all the wiring, not sure the price but idk if that is what I want. I might go all newer because of what optikal posted on the bauman tcs, which should take care of VSS signal...
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Zach, listen man, go with the explorer 302. If you don't want to run the Explorer ECU and wiring harness, thats ok. The Explorer 302s are roller blocks and have really good heads and intakes (GT40). So you can make really good power for a decent price. Change the cam and run some torque monster headers and you will be set. You mentioned tha you didn't like how tight the Explorer 302 was in a ranger... well, I got some news for you, any 302 is going to be the same situation, and a 351W or 6.0 chevy would be much worse. You don't want to start cross breeding either, you are going to start running into major compatability problems with the EFI and OBD II in the Ranger. It;ll be much simpler to leave it all Ford. Also, like what was mentioned earlier, the 4R70W is a stout tranny, especially if built correctly. The Mustang gooroos are really starting to swap these in because they are a very good base to build on. Its about your best bet, simply because you will want to to Keep overdrive, and an AOD is weak... So, my suggestion... just get the Explorere stuff and fix the small bugs you will run into. I have spoken with rhezwing alot, and Im sure he'd be willing to help you through any hurdles. But with a cam change, some headers, and a tuner, you would have a kick *** power plant that looks stock in the ranger. It would be very clean, just like you want. Whatever you do though, I would suggest keeping it OBD II, and def EFI and Overdrive trans.
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+1 what Tyler said. And if you went built 302, 351 or 6.0, you might as weel bare bones the truck to make it easier. but i know you want to keep all your stock options working.
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