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need help on selecting a sub..

what kind of sub is the best kind to get but not too expensive, and whats the difference between dual voice coil and single voice coil
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Your best bet is going to be to go to a store and listen to several different kinds of subs and see what you like the best. Personally, I bought a JL Audio 12W3V3. It was about 180 bucks and I think it sounds great.
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I agree. JL audio makes some great stuff but can be on the pricey side. Make sure you research before you buy a sub, so you won't regret anything like I did. Look on the caraudio.com forums for people's views. You can find out about almost any sub and what they have to offer or what they don't.
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I also agree with JL Audio. I am very impressed with thier W1v2 line. I am also impressed with Kicker's L7 8" sub. You should check that out.
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Yes go to caraudio.com/forum and look around. personally a think JL is overpriced for what they are. there are better subs out there for the money. I dont want to answer the voice coil question but there are two terminals for a dual voice coil and one on the single. Good companies are and not limited to: TC Sounds, RE Audio, Adire, Alpine(Type R), etc. do some searching. Also are you looking for Sound Quality or SPL.Different subs for each.
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we need some info on what you want to even start to suggest god stuff

price you want to spend
power you have/are getting
size of speaker you want
how much you want to give up
what music you listen to

take adire off the list
add these to the internet brand of gear

stereo integrity BM (www.stereointegrity.com)
FI X/SSD/Q (www.ficaraudio.com)
AA Assasain/arsenal (www.ascendantaudio.com)
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hmm dont kno y i said adire actually good call, but yes give us the info and the possibilites are endless. good brands btw. totally 4got FI my bad...
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The reason I went with JL is that I could go to the store and actually HEAR their subs myself. Listening to different speakers and seeing what I like actually convinced me to change from a W6 like I'd originally planned to the W3. I'm sure alot of the internet brands are great, but I like to know for sure what I am buying Do your research though and go with what appeals to you the most!
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what im lookin for is some really deep bass and possibly either 2 10s or 2 12s in the back for my truck. i took the rear seats out to make the room, so yea i have lots of room. and money wise, im not too rich but this is one of those things that i want to invest in the best type so i get good quality, but thanxs for the help guys.
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i also want to build a box...any idea or tips on building one
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It is pretty easy to build a box. First you need to know what sub your getting, so you can figure up the airspace that you need. Look at the box or goto the website of the sub you pick. And it will tell you the min. and max. airspace that sub can handle. Well then you measure out what you want. Then goto the site here
http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/boxcalcs.asp

Do the volume calculator to see if your box is where it needs to be. From there just adjust it to fit what you want, and the sub.

As for making the sub, I have a 10" L7 in my single cab and I love it. Making the box just make sure you get MDF wood, glue, and screw. I found out that more effort you put into the box, the better it sounds.

I just read that you took your back seat out, that is good. If you are wanting deep bass, try to JL. I would say do like 1 15" L7, that would sound good back there. I put that in a Yukon for one of my friends, and I love it. Wish that I could fit one, lol.

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Dual voice coil allows for connection of left and right speaker connections, e.g. when used with a standard stereo amp. Unless you have a special sub out available already, the dual voice coil would be what you want, imo.
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It is pretty easy to build a box. First you need to know what sub your getting, so you can figure up the airspace that you need. Look at the box or goto the website of the sub you pick. And it will tell you the min. and max. airspace that sub can handle. Well then you measure out what you want. Then goto the site here
http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/boxcalcs.asp

Do the volume calculator to see if your box is where it needs to be. From there just adjust it to fit what you want, and the sub.

As for making the sub, I have a 10" L7 in my single cab and I love it. Making the box just make sure you get MDF wood, glue, and screw. I found out that more effort you put into the box, the better it sounds.

I just read that you took your back seat out, that is good. If you are wanting deep bass, try to JL. I would say do like 1 15" L7, that would sound good back there. I put that in a Yukon for one of my friends, and I love it. Wish that I could fit one, lol.

Hope that helps

thanxs that helped a lot
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Dual voice coil allows for connection of left and right speaker connections, e.g. when used with a standard stereo amp. Unless you have a special sub out available already, the dual voice coil would be what you want, imo.
not really, it dosent have to be dual voice coil,a DVC just allows you to wire the voice coil to different ohms, either series it or parallel it to achieve which ever ohms that would benifit your amps better, DVC 2ohm subs you can parallel it to 1ohm final imp. or you can series it to 4ohm final imp.

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im not sure exactly how much room your working with here, but you say you want good deep bass, i would try to do a ported box to about 30hz or 32hz, maybe using 6" aero's, for ever how many subs you want, you could run 1 nice sub or 2 lesser ones

now how much do you want to spend max, your idea of expensive might be different than mine so throw out a number

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thats a nice system...i think im gunna go with 2 12s and an amp...im thinkin now that i might get an enclosure with the subs and an amp from crutchfield. i was lookin at the kicker enclosure...[url]http://www.crutchfield.com/S-1g2pUaffxc9/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=510&I=206DCVR122/[url] ...and id get an amp with that. that way if i do blow out a sub or an amp it wont be too too bad. what do u think?
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if you think you might blow a sub, go to circuit city/bestbuy and get it from there with the extra warranry, it blows, take it back and get new one, no questions

its not going to sound as good as a custom box and good sub
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would one sub do it tho
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not really, it dosent have to be dual voice coil,a DVC just allows you to wire the voice coil to different ohms, either series it or parallel it to achieve which ever ohms that would benifit your amps better, DVC 2ohm subs you can parallel it to 1ohm final imp. or you can series it to 4ohm final imp.
This doesn't invalidate the possibility of connecting a stereo output to the dual voice coil. Either is an option.
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would one sub do it tho
yeah 1 will do fine, especially if you go with a higher end woofer. I purchased my entry level equipment about 4 years ago and I'm still very satisfied with it. I am jonesing for some JL or RE audio equipment, but I'm still going to stick with just one sub.

I don't know how serious you are about the SQ and SPL, but I'm just running regular rockford stuff and I constantly get compliments about it oddly enough
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ii ran 2 PG octane R subs at first very clean and very loud it all depends on the enclosure and power anysub i guess can sound good..1 high end sub with an amp to meet the RMS of the sub and a half decent box and youll get good clean sound...ill stick with my word my L7's are amazing..there very very clean and at low volumes the bass is very there and the woofers you cant see them moving..
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cool thanxs guys for your help
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would one sub do it tho
I (along with all the people that heard it at local competitions) was very impressed with the single JL 10W3v2 10" sub I had. It was in a 2 cu. ft. slot ported enclosure tuned at 40 htz. Runnin' off a PG Octane 250 watt amp. It hit a true 133.2 db in my '96 Explorer.

I do agree. Go out and listen for yourself. Buy at a local store, you get a better warranty.
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im lookin at amps now and when they give a recommened gauge wire can u go hogher, like they say use an 8 gauge wire can i go to a 4 gauge wire
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Yes. Bigger is always better. You just have to make sure it will accept the 4 ga. wire. Some amps only have a big enough opening for 8 ga. But you can always trim the 4 ga. down to fit the 8 ga. whole. Just make sure it's not touching anything else.
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I'll second FI audio, my SSD10 is absolutely breath taking... seriously.

DON'T FOR THE LIFE OF ME AND YOU BUILD A BOX TO MANUFACTURE SPEC. They have no idea what type of vehicle you will be putting that sub into, and have no idea what type of accoustical limitions and frequency peaks your vehicle will consequate. Their specs are generic for that sub, they will work, but will be far from OPTIMAL.

If you want an enclosure that will insanely pound then you'll want a custom enclosure built by Pete from Team Toxic Base.

The enclosure is what makes or breaks your system. Don't skimp on it. He can build you a box, or simply sell you a set of blue prints and you build it yourself. Your one 10" can be made to sound louder and have better SQ than two 12"s. Or two 10's in the right enclosure from him would kill the average twin 15" setup.

I'm currently waiting for him to do my design as well so I can build it. YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPOINTED!!!!!!!!!
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