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Old Jul 25, 2005
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Which of these subs should sound better?

I currently have an older Rockford Fosgate RFP2410 10" Woofer. I thought a newer sub would sound better so I got a Kicker C10 Comp 10". Well I installed it today and I think the older RF sounds better!! Should it? Could it be the box? Thoughts??

I'm using an RF500X amp. I have it wired 4ohm bridged 250 Watts X 2.

RF2410 Specs:

Model RFP2410
Nominal Impedance 4
FS (Hz) 30
RE (Ohm) 3.7
LE (mH) 3.3
QMS 5.38
QES 0.39
QTS 0.36
VAS (cu.ft.) 1.62
VAS (liter) 46
Power (Watts RMS) 200
Power (Watts Peak) 400
SPL (dB @ 1w/1m) 87
X-MAX (inches) 0.31
X-MAX (mm) 8
Sealed Box Vol. (cu. ft.) 0.75
Ported Box Vol. (cu. ft.) 1.0
Speaker Dis. (cu. ft.) 0.06
Mounting Dia. (in.) 95⁄32
Mounting Depth (in.) 41⁄2

Kicker C10 Specs:
Nominal Impedance [Zn], ohm - 4 or 8
Resonance Frequency [fs], Hz - 29.4
Sensitivity [SPLo], dB @ 1W, 1m - 87.3
Effective Piston Area [Sd], in2 (m2) - 57.4 (.037)
Power Handling Watts, Peak (RMS) - 300 (150)
Effective Frequency Range, Hz - 30-500
Effective Excursion [EXmax™], in (mm) - .38 (9.76)
DC Resistance [Re], ohm - 3.70
Voice Coil Inductance [Le], mH - 3.15
Voice Coil Diameter [d], in (mm) - 1 5/8 (40.5)
Voice Coil Length [h], in (mm) - .99 (25.2)
Mechanical Q-Factor [Qms] - 9.65
Electrical Q-Factor [Qes] - .473
Total Q-Factor [Qts] - .451
Force Factor [BL], Tm - 11.32
Equivalent Volume [Vas], ft3 (L) - 2.27 (64.38)
Moving Mass [Mms], oz (g) - 3.13 (88.8)
Net Displacement, in3 (cc) - 60.0 (982.3)
Outer Frame Diameter, in (cm) - 10 11/16 (27.1)
Hole Cut-Out Diameter, in (cm) - 9 1/4 (23.5)
Mounting Depth, in (cm) - 4 15/16 (12.5)
Magnet Weight, oz (kg) - 33 (.936)
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005
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what kind of box do you have?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005
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Just one of those cheap truck boxes. Similar to this except it has a port hole as well:

 
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Old Jul 25, 2005
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Since you have a ported box, it's tuned for a certain frequency, which you may or may not know. Each speaker is going to be built differently and require different size ported boxes for the tuning you are looking for. The 50 watt more power will not give a noticable difference, most likely. The RF sub is prob set up better with the box, with its tuned frequency being more of what you hear or like.
If you want, try sealing the port in the box to make the box a sealed, it will totally change the sound, more quality, which may sound better or more of what you want. just a suggestion
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005
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thats your problem... what cab do u have?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005
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4 Door Extended Cab. Would this box be better for the new sub?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005
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thats better but its not gonna fit... (my friend has that one)...its really wide.

Goto the kickerwebsite and see what they recommend box wise (ie. how much air space it takes)
 
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Old Jul 25, 2005
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Actually...better yet call kicker and tell them what type of vehicle you have, the music you listen to, and the amp you have. Then they can tell you exactly what size box to build....they have specs for almost every vehicle. The specs on their website are just a guideline.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2005
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Quick STUPID question.. Am I sending TOO much power to this sub? Am I sending 500W RMS?? This is what the doc says:

Maximum Power Rating
All Channels - 1000 W
Continuous Power Rating (RMS) - Measured at 14.4 Battery Volts
4Ω Load Per Channel - 62.5 Watts x 4
2Ω Load Per Channel - 125 Watts x 4
4Ω Load Bridged - 250 Watts x 2

And I have it hooked up like so:
 
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