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Old Apr 30, 2007
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wouldn't you need a PCM that read the speed from the t-case to do that?



i agree that a 8.8 is a good choice, but spending the money on converting or aquiring a 8.8 with disc brakes and still having to have it chopped down for Ranger (or close to it) width, the 9" would be my choice. if you are going to do all that work, might as well do it 1 time and not worry about it.......the 9" has a better aftermarket following also....there are plenty of accessories like axle trusses and so forth....
He would just buy an explorer axle with disks and replace the shafts, and rotors to get 5x5.5 Alot easyer then having a 9" cut down.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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yeah it would cost me 220 for the 9" and 60 for the 8.8 to get it to 5on5.5 plus the rotors.

http://www.moserengineering.com/Page...pservices.html
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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Originally Posted by redranger4.0
He would just buy an explorer axle with disks and replace the shafts, and rotors to get 5x5.5 Alot easyer then having a 9" cut down.
i think it would take aftermarket rotors to get the 5x5.5.........i don't recall a Ford that had the 8.8 in it with disc brakes and a 5x5.5 lug pattern.....

easier than haveing a 9" cut down Moser Engineering is not too far from his house.....Map Quest says 1 hour and 45 minutes (Columbia City, IN to Portland, IN).....take the axle and have it done....they can cut an axle housing down for $110 and new custom axle shafts for $315 for the pair.........not to mention if he already knows what his plans for the axle is he can have them weld on perches or whatever else is needed.....
 
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Originally Posted by zabeard
yeah it would cost me 220 for the 9" and 60 for the 8.8 to get it to 5on5.5 plus the rotors.

http://www.moserengineering.com/Page...pservices.html
they can't respline the 9" axles since you would only be cutting off about 2.5" of the axles........they say they can't spline over existing splines and the 9" axles have about 3" of spline........

do the 5x4.5" rotors have enough on them to allow for a 5x5.5" bolt pattern? or will that put the studs close to the outside of the rotor?

if you are going to do it, do it right the 1st time....
 
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Originally Posted by lifted97ranger

do the 5x4.5" rotors have enough on them to allow for a 5x5.5" bolt pattern? or will that put the studs close to the outside of the rotor?
I know the flange can be redrilled, but has to have threaded studs, not sure about the disk its self.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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to convert the 8.8 to 5x5.5 either use adaptors like i did or have your axles and rotors drilled for the new pattern at a machine shop.. im using 1.5" adaptors and it set my rear width almost perfect with the front.. next time i have the wheels off ill get exact WMS measurements
 
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^^forgot about that
 
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Originally Posted by Big04Ranger
to convert the 8.8 to 5x5.5 either use adaptors like i did or have your axles and rotors drilled for the new pattern at a machine shop.. im using 1.5" adaptors and it set my rear width almost perfect with the front.. next time i have the wheels off ill get exact WMS measurements

sweet

just go take them off now. lol
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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personally, id run a 8.8, but then again I'm biased since i have 3 in my garage

also if you read that site, they can plug and redrill your rotors too, so it still would be cheaper to have them convert your 8.8 to 5x5.5 then do a shorten 9inch.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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if you are gonna stay the same width as now(or close) i say 31T 8.8.
you can reuse your gears. you dont need custom shafts.
redrillin rotors is easy. if there is enough room on the axle flange, which has been confirmed as long as threaded studs are used, there will be enough room on the face of the rotor.
and there is always the spacer/adapter option.

resell the 9" and make some money....
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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Originally Posted by gumby
if you are gonna stay the same width as now(or close) i say 31T 8.8.
you can reuse your gears. you dont need custom shafts.
redrillin rotors is easy. if there is enough room on the axle flange, which has been confirmed as long as threaded studs are used, there will be enough room on the face of the rotor.
and there is always the spacer/adapter option.

resell the 9" and make some money....

listen to gumby, hes smart
 
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im leaning towards running the 8.8 more and more.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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narrow and 4 link the 9" and narrow and 3 link the D44....IMO it would be a great setup for street and off road use
 
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lol sounds all good but im not starting over... lol
 
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that sounds really really pricey
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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superior axle makes a kit called the super 88 kit. "The Super 8.8™ Axle System features a 35% Increase in strength over stock applications. The system fits 1995 and newer Ford Explorers and Mercury Mountaineer 8.8 axle housings with disc brakes and drum brakes. The kit comes complete with the following: Two USA-made 31 spline 4340 chrome molly axles. The axles feature a thicker flange and increased radius to the body for a real strength increase for those side hill moments. This design provides more strength than some aftermarket designs that only increase the thickness of the flange. Two heavy-duty machined axle retainers with spacer rings. Complete set of 3/4 ton Timken Roller Bearings™ and Seals. Two C-Clip eliminators, Ten 1/2-20 threaded studs and two axle badges to show your Superior pride. The Super 88™ Axle System requires some cutting but no welding. On average it can be installed in your driveway in under 2 hours." you can choose the 5x4.5 or 5x5.5 pattern with this kit.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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one of the main weakness in the 8.8 is the factory case. change it out for a full case locker or limited slip, and alot of your fears will be minimalized. Jey ran an expo 8.8, with a detroit. That thing took much abuse. Building a 9" would be nice, but an 8.8 can hold 37s just fine with the case change.
 

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If you have the time and $ do the 9"

If not, keep the 8.8"
 
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Old Apr 30, 2007
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My 28 spline 8.8 is holding up well w. these tires I've got on here now. It stops well (for drum brakes) & I can still power brake the **** outta these tires. No problems here, yet. haha

Brenton
 
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