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axle shafts = cv joints?

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Old 06-23-2006
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axle shafts = cv joints?

bought a 94 3.0 4x4 xcab ranger last week, took it to mechanic today and found out the front axle shafts are bad.

are axle shafts the same as cv joints?

i am confused.
 
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it depends. If you have a solid axle, no. However if you have just a pumpkin with ifs your "axle shafts" have cv joints in them that are replacable.
 
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Originally Posted by ericg
it depends. If you have a solid axle, no. However if you have just a pumpkin with ifs your "axle shafts" have cv joints in them that are replacable.
now where would he have gotten a solid axle
 
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no axle shafts are NOT the same as CV joints. do a little common sense here. shaft. joint. shaft. joint. shaft=joint? NO!

but they work together in the same assembly. you have two CV joints mixed in with shafts from your front diff to the hubs. you axle shafts cant be "bad" (unless they are broken) so you need new CV joints, but usually people just buy the whole assembly. at least i do...
 
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how hard are the axle shaft bearings to replace?
my mechanic told me 1 1/2 hours labor each side for total of 3 hours
 
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Originally Posted by Jeremy102579
how hard are the axle shaft bearings to replace?
my mechanic told me 1 1/2 hours labor each side for total of 3 hours
AXLE SHAF BEARINGS?!?!

im not aware of such a thing called "axles shaft bearings" i can think of hub bearings, bearings in the diff, but no "axle shaft bearings". the CVs have big ball bearings in them, but i wouldnt think thats what hes referring too...
 
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Take it to a new mechanic right now. This guy is an idiot.
 
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Originally Posted by FauX
Take it to a new mechanic right now. This guy is an idiot.
actually no, you guys are idiots, read his post before you start giving him wrong information.

he says this is a 94 ranger... anyone know what that means??? that it has a TTB front end, TTB front ends DO NOT have cv joints, they have axle shafts with u-joints in them. there are 3 u-joints total, one on the driverside and 2 on the passengerside, the inner one on the passengerside is a ***** because you either have to pull the entire pumpkin or replace the joint in the beam. the outter two are easy because you can just pull the shafts on both sides and do the joints on a bench.

and the axle shaft bearings are there yes, they are in the spindle and the axle shafts ride on them and are normally called spindle bearings. these aren't too difficult to replace, you just unbolt and pull off the spindles (after pulling off the brakes and the wheelbearings) and then you have to work the old bearings out and there are a few different ways to do that, it can be kind of tricky if you've never done it before. then you drive the new bearings in. you have to pull the spindles off anyway to get the axle shafts out. this mechanic actually sounds like he knows a little something about the TTB at least. If you are not very mechanically inclined than you will have to have someone do it, but if you are decent with a wrench you should be able to do all of it yourself, cone to think of it the truck I did was a '94. if you want to do it yourself just be sure to get some form of a press to do the u-joints, theyre done just like any other u-joint, but use a c-clip around the inner part rather than the snap-ring on the outside of each cap. oh and if his 3 hours total labor is to replace both spindle bearings and all 3 u-joints then thats not bad, you should have him replace the wheel bearings too seeing as hes gonna have to take em off anyway so it WILL NOT be any more labor.

and anyone who thinks I'm a dick for my response, do a little reading and research before you give people bad tech.
 
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Originally Posted by TireIron
actually no, you guys are idiots, read his post before you start giving him wrong information.

he says this is a 94 ranger... anyone know what that means??? that it has a TTB front end, TTB front ends DO NOT have cv joints, they have axle shafts with u-joints in them. there are 3 u-joints total, one on the driverside and 2 on the passengerside, the inner one on the passengerside is a ***** because you either have to pull the entire pumpkin or replace the joint in the beam. the outter two are easy because you can just pull the shafts on both sides and do the joints on a bench.

and the axle shaft bearings are there yes, they are in the spindle and the axle shafts ride on them and are normally called spindle bearings. these aren't too difficult to replace, you just unbolt and pull off the spindles (after pulling off the brakes and the wheelbearings) and then you have to work the old bearings out and there are a few different ways to do that, it can be kind of tricky if you've never done it before. then you drive the new bearings in. you have to pull the spindles off anyway to get the axle shafts out. this mechanic actually sounds like he knows a little something about the TTB at least. If you are not very mechanically inclined than you will have to have someone do it, but if you are decent with a wrench you should be able to do all of it yourself, cone to think of it the truck I did was a '94. if you want to do it yourself just be sure to get some form of a press to do the u-joints, theyre done just like any other u-joint, but use a c-clip around the inner part rather than the snap-ring on the outside of each cap. oh and if his 3 hours total labor is to replace both spindle bearings and all 3 u-joints then thats not bad, you should have him replace the wheel bearings too seeing as hes gonna have to take em off anyway so it WILL NOT be any more labor.

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hey i just pulled the whole frontend apart on my 93 over the weekend if ur trucks like mine get a big soft mallet or a block of wood and a big hammer cuz they were really stuck on there but yah if u want to drop the pumpkin u gotta remove the drivers side radius arm and i kinda broke a 1/2" breaker bar doin it so get urself some big hammers big wrenches and lotsa wd40 that stuf is god lol well good luck gettin ur problem fixed. its prob the spindle bearings they go dry often
 
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Originally Posted by TireIron
hes gonna have to take em off anyway so it WILL NOT be any more labor.

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how do you figure?

i just bought new front brakes and rotors for him to install too, r u saying this wouldnt cost me any more labor?
 
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no, if he has to take the axle shafts out, he has to take off the calipers, and rotors, and the wheel bearings need to come off to get the rotors off, and the spindle needs to come off to ge tthe axle shaft out. so to do the u-joints int eh frotn shafts, you will have the spindle off already so you can do the spindle bearings, the pads and rotors will be off so in order to put the new rotors on you have to setup the wheelbearings because those are what hold the rotor on. so he will have to take off all those parts just to get to the axle shaft, so instead of putting the old ones back on he can put new ones on and it wouldnt be any more labor. its just a matter of putting old parts back on or using new ones.
 
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