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clutch pedal froze?

Hi guys I have a 1999 ford ranger 5 speed. today as I was coming to a stop, the clutch pedal would not move .It has been very cold here and the truck sat for the last few days could something have froze?
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Sounds like something went wrong with the throw out bearing.
 
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OK I'll check that once I tow it home,thanks
any other possibilities?
 
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Could be something wrong with the master cylinder as well. I know it'll be a pain but your best bet is to go through and check all the components of the clutch system
 
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Could have some water in the fluid that froze but you would have had that when you first started the truck in the morning, not after it had been running.

Have someone press on the pedal while someone opens the bleeder valve on the bell housing.
If pedal moves and fluid flows out then Master is OK, problem is in the slave.

If pedal still doesn't move then either Master or Quick disconnect fitting at bell house is the problem.
If Quick disconnect fitting comes loose pedal will not move.
 
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Originally Posted by 00GreenRanger
Could be something wrong with the master cylinder as well. I know it'll be a pain but your best bet is to go through and check all the components of the clutch system
more of a pain in the fingers it's cold as heck here
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Originally Posted by RonD
Could have some water in the fluid that froze but you would have had that when you first started the truck in the morning, not after it had been running.

Have someone press on the pedal while someone opens the bleeder valve on the bell housing.
If pedal moves and fluid flows out then Master is OK, problem is in the slave.

If pedal still doesn't move then either Master or Quick disconnect fitting at bell house is the problem.
If Quick disconnect fitting comes loose pedal will not move.
the truck wasn't warm by any means I had just started it and was going to get gas ,2nd time I tried to come to a stop the pedal was locked up
 
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I had something similar with mine. Pedal wouldn't move. This was after a shop "fixed" my truck by installing a new slave, a new clutch and pressure plate.

Turns out they didn't install the new parts on centerline and it screwed up my clutch, pressure plate and I had to have a new shop install new parts.

The pilot bearing was pushed out and the clutch was only making contact at two spots. I saw the burn marks. After the first shop screwed things up what your describing happened happened to mine. I tried for 3 days to bleed the slave and with the help of a couple people too.

Look at what the others have said. You might need to replace the slave cylinder and or the master cylinder.
 
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First off, how cold is cold... Give us a number.

Will tell us if your exaggerating or if freezing could actually be the issue.
 
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Originally Posted by 06FordFX4
First off, how cold is cold... Give us a number.

Will tell us if your exaggerating or if freezing could actually be the issue.
His profile on the right says New York, I looked, he's just south of buffalo...... I'm assuming similar temps to you and me.
 
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So -58F? Lol.
 
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Ya we have had high temps in the low teens 13 yesterday I think with strong gusty winds.
Right now it's 1 feels like -9
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Morris did your pedal freeze suddenly?I had a new clutch /slave installed late summer
 
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Originally Posted by Guyla
Ya we have had high temps in the low teens 13 yesterday I think with strong gusty winds.
Right now it's 1 feels like -9
Guy
Yeah that's not cold. Not cold enough to freeze it IMO.
 
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He's talking Fahrenheit. His 13 is our -10....

Guy, it sounds like you're having a similar issue that I had. Bring it back and make them make sure the parts were installed on centerline. I would put money on it they weren't. You can either being it to the original shop and hope they'll make it right or do what I did and bring it to a trans guy. He was honest and told me I'm in a bad spot cus if I said something to the original shop is be in limbo. I had to bite the bullet and eat the cost of the original install. Lesson learned, trans items go to the specialist
 

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Originally Posted by morris
He's talking Fahrenheit. His 13 is our -10....
I know.... I'm talking Fahrenheit to..... Notice the "F" in my post?

-10 C or, 13 F is no where near cold enough to have that effect on a vehicle. otherwise everyone and their mother's would have the issue. That's the point I'm trying to get at.

Now if it really was actually cold, like I get, I could see it possibly being an issue. But that's not the case.
 
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nothing is froze it's pretty nice out today and it still don't move
 
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I'm 99% sure it's not lined up and that's why you're having issues. Mine also wouldn't go into gear cus it wasn't fully engaging/disengaging. If I shut it off I could but running was a no go.
 
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Originally Posted by RonD
Could have some water in the fluid that froze but you would have had that when you first started the truck in the morning, not after it had been running.

Have someone press on the pedal while someone opens the bleeder valve on the bell housing.
If pedal moves and fluid flows out then Master is OK, problem is in the slave.

If pedal still doesn't move then either Master or Quick disconnect fitting at bell house is the problem.
If Quick disconnect fitting comes loose pedal will not move.
well the disconnect is the culprit but I can't get it to stay on do I need a special tool? (or better glasses?)
And thank all of you you were very helpfull.
 
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Yes, there is a special tool, but many have used flat blade screwdrivers

Picture of tool here: KD Tools Ford Clutch Tool Hydraulic Quick Disconnect Tool KDT3413: Upgrade with the best Clutch Tools at Advance Auto Parts

It is only a few dollars at most parts stores

This video shows how to use the tool so you can see how you might use a couple of screwdrivers:
 
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It also comes with the new slave kit when you buy one.
 
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Thanks guys I got it home in the garage now I'll go bleed it ,I really appreciate your help but I won't send money lol
 
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Good luck. I tried bleeding my for a weekend. Couldn't do it and that's why I brought it to a trans guy
 
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It was just a small bubble from plugging it in it bled right out
 
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That's good. Keep an eye on things.
 


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