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how much merc V for a trans fluid change?

going to do my filter and fluid in a couple of days, but needed to know how much I need to have on hand and how much to expect to catch.
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depends on how you do it.
if you just pull the pan and replace the filter 4-5 quarts.
the proper way to drain a ford transmission and get 98% of the fluid out is to un-hook one of the trans lines, put a hose on both ends and place them in a drain pan or 5 gallon bucket then start the engine, leave it in park and let it run untill no more fluid comes out.

then you will need 9-10 quarts, plus when you pull the pan you wont make as big of a mess.

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depends on how you do it.
if you just pull the pan and replace the filter 4-5 quarts.
the proper way to drain a ford transmission and get 98% or the fluid out is to un-hook one of the trans lines, put a hose on both ends and place them in a drain pan or 5 gallon bucket then thart the engine, leave it in park and let it run untill no more fluid comes out.

then you will need 9-10 quarts, plus when you pull the pan you wont make as big of a mess.

Not a good idea. Once the sump is dry there is no more lubrication for the transmission.


A better way is to pour fluid in as it comes out. Put in about 12 quarts then reinstall the line and top off as needed.

FYI, the trans will pump about a quart every 30 seconds at 1000 rpm.
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wow so the ford service manual is wrong???????

this is how ford says to drain the transmission.

this is how i drained mine before i did the 2x4 to 4x4 internal trans swap work, i have had no problems with it after the swap.

this is how i drain every ford transmission at the shop i work at before i do any heavy transmission repair.

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dont you have issues with air if you do that mark?
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wow so the ford service manual is wrong???????

this is how ford says to drain the transmission.

I thought you were describing the drive way fluid flush method. Your step by step is a tad confusing. Changing the filter then draining the trans threw me for a loop.
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there will be no air issues.

if your gonna change the filter you are better off draining the entire transmission then just the pan.
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depends on how you do it.
if you just pull the pan and replace the filter 4-5 quarts.
the proper way to drain a ford transmission and get 98% or the fluid out is to un-hook one of the trans lines, put a hose on both ends and place them in a drain pan or 5 gallon bucket then thart the engine, leave it in park and let it run untill no more fluid comes out.

then you will need 9-10 quarts, plus when you pull the pan you wont make as big of a mess.
I agree, bad idea!!!!! I pump a gallon out at a time, replacing with a gallon of new Mercon V each time. After pumping out the 4th gallon, I drop the pan, replace the filter, and reinstall the pan before replacing the 4th gallon.
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your a turd and have no clue as to how to work on a car/truck.

my way is how FORD says to drain a automatic transmission and this is how i do it. never had any problems Mr know it all.

i have ASE certs that tell me i know what i am talking about.

go back to the other ford truck forum ok.

and BTW merc V is almost 5 bucks a quart so wasting 4+ gallons is stupid.
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...i have ASE certs that tell me i know what i am talking about....
Without a doubt, you are a legend in your own mind!!!

I'm glad you think so highly of yourself......too bad nobody else thinks so!!

And, for your information, Ford (or any other vehicle manufacturer) does not recommend pumping a tranny dry!! The recommended equipment, and procedure pumps fresh ATF in, as the old ATF is pumped out!!

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your a turd and have no clue as to how to work on a car/truck.

Name calling, WOW.

My A&P trumps your ASE. On a side note, your grammar is that of a 12 year old.


Obliviously there is more than one way to skin a cat. The mature route is the way things should be done. There is no need for bickering when theres a difference of opinion. It makes everyone involved look like a bleeding vagina.

People disagree with you on this method. You say this is the way ford trained you. Well Ford isn't the king of maintenance, they do things for different reasons. Some to save the tech time, some to cost the customer money.

IMHO, running any lubrication system dry for any reason is asking for trouble.
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wow......this will get interesting......

i would happen to more believe a Ford tech than someone who knows all.......

I say prove them wrong Mark, scan in a copy of the page were it says it, or if you can get a screen shot from work....
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ok i'm working on it as i type
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depends on how you do it.
if you just pull the pan and replace the filter 4-5 quarts.
the proper way to drain a ford transmission and get 98% of the fluid out is to un-hook one of the trans lines, put a hose on both ends and place them in a drain pan or 5 gallon bucket then start the engine, leave it in park and let it run untill no more fluid comes out.

then you will need 9-10 quarts, plus when you pull the pan you wont make as big of a mess.
I will second this, i just checked my ford service manual-one you will find in the shops office-and it states a similar method, disconnect a line, put a hose on each end and run for 5 minutes to circuate all the fluid
I would scan the picture but the scanner isnt working and print is to small to take a decent picture to post, but this guy may know what hes talking about after all
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hmmm, the picture Blhde posted does not state to pump the tranny dry, it states to pull the bolts and let the fluid drain out of the pan. I'm curious to see what the link in number 6 refers to.
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I'm curious to see what the link in number 6 refers to.
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That doesn't sound anything like pumping the ATF out until it's dry!!!!
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...this is how i drain every ford transmission at the shop i work at.......

Obviously, you DO NOT work at a Ford dealership!! How do you service the
Ford trannies without dipsticks???
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This is what some "TRUE FORD DEALERSHIPS" use for tranny service:

http://www.bgprod.com/products/transmission.html
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I will second this, i just checked my ford service manual-one you will find in the shops office-and it states a similar method, disconnect a line, put a hose on each end and run for 5 minutes to circuate all the fluid
In "04 Edge"'s procedure, he isn't circulating the ATF, he is pumping it out of the tranny!!! You need the machine (described in my previous post) to replace the ATF as the old ATF is being removed.......
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this is the method as to which the service manual i have says to do, i thought this is what "04edge" was referring to,
I was assuming that when he said he was running till atf was out i thought this was the procedure he was using untill all the atf was out, not literally running all the atf out
I guess that whole never assume statement got me again
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ok all you idiots be warned, tomorrow i will take a snapshot of "alldata's" way of draining a ford transmission.

this will be taken from the latest copy of alldata 2007 third quarter.


remember you have been warned!
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ok all you idiots be warned

I see the high road is lost to you.


Alldata is downloading, I may just beat you to the punch.
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i respect no one who dosn't tell the great people of "ranger forums" there real , at least, first name.

and dont even think for one second about doctoring anything!
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