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I got some questions about a D30 swap

Well I am sick of my edge being 2wd winter sucks. I already have another 2wd truck. I cant trade my truck or sell it because I owe more then what my truck is worth so that has been ruled out. I sat down and did the math on it and it will cost me substantially more to "just put the 4wd parts in." It would cost me about 2200 for parts at a bone yard. NOW it will cost me around 800 to 1100 to get a D30 out of a Cherokee with a HP and 3.55 gears in it already (matching my rear) 60 for some wrangler front leafs around 300 for the 1354 T-Case and about 100 for the rear ds. Anyhow I left myself with around 300 for misc bracket building and steering components. Now for my unknowns. For my steering can I just use one off my 92? Also is their any difference in length between the auto 4wd and the 5spd 4wd. FYI my truck is a super cab. Now my big question what can I do for the front ds? I dont need anything that has like an insane ability to work at a 60 degree angle or nothin lol. Just need it to work. Any Ideas that can help me out here?
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Your going to need custom shafts. A D30 is a peice of ****. I dont think it will be worth it unless you go D44 and do it totally right. I am sure there is someone who can help here. BUT i hear D30 = bad
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I have still been debating on gettin a 44 and shortening it. But for the price of the D30 and considering its just a stock deal I figgured eh what the hell The biggest tires I was going to run would be the 32s that I have on it already plus its the same lug pattern. Well I suppose I will have to start workin out the geometry on building a shaft lol.
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Six states makes great drive shafts. I dont know if you live by one i know they are in certain states but they did work on my jeep great custom fab job!!
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I think a D30 is just fine for the average 4x4 owner. It will hold up to 33ís and normal wheeling (what you would do with a stock 4x4 ranger). The problem is, most people who want to spend the money on the SAS, want to do more than the average wheeling with bigger and better tires. Then you need to up your game. Just my opinion.

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Yeah theres nothing wrong with a D30, its all based on application. If your going to run 33s or even 35s and be gentle with it you'll be fine. Now if your going to be on rocks with a heavy right foot then of course you'll need something stronger.
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Yeah theres nothing wrong with a D30, its all based on application. If your going to run 33s or even 35s and be gentle with it you'll be fine. Now if your going to be on rocks with a heavy right foot then of course you'll need something stronger.
thats kinda what I was tihnking the extent of my wheeling with be driving on wet dirt and in snow lol.

unfortunatly there int a six states even remotly close to me. There are a few shops around here that can do it if I can tho. What do you tyhink a custom ds would run me out of curiousity. as long as it is less then 400 bucks I will consider it. Anybody have any insight on what I could do for a steering box? From what I have found is the older ranger boxes will be fine with the proper set up?
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Now if your going to be on rocks with a heavy right foot then of course you'll need something stronger.
This is my problem hehe.

My foot was born with cement in it.

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thats kinda what I was tihnking the extent of my wheeling with be driving on wet dirt and in snow lol.

unfortunatly there int a six states even remotly close to me. There are a few shops around here that can do it if I can tho. What do you tyhink a custom ds would run me out of curiousity. as long as it is less then 400 bucks I will consider it. Anybody have any insight on what I could do for a steering box? From what I have found is the older ranger boxes will be fine with the proper set up?

hmm I would guess like 200 - 400.. If you take one in and have it extended it might be cheaper. My jeep one was rebuilt and its like 189.
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whoever told you 2200 for 4wd components is a fool.

first off the msot expensive part of that swap would be the tranny and tcase.

the diff is in second. the diff is cheap! most guys sell them for around 100-150

you can get 1354s for around 200-300 easy

only thing left is the spindles, hubs, brakes, and a few odds and ends.

you just need to find a better junkyard.

for what you want, do not do a SAS. it would be pointless.
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Thats about what I was thinking. I has consider that.
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2200 gets you a SAS from what i am told.
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whoever told you 2200 for 4wd components is a fool.

first off the msot expensive part of that swap would be the tranny and tcase.

the diff is in second. the diff is cheap! most guys sell them for around 100-150

you can get 1354s for around 200-300 easy

only thing left is the spindles, hubs, brakes, and a few odds and ends.

you just need to find a better junkyard.

for what you want, do not do a SAS. it would be pointless.
I was lookin online at car-part.com The only diffs I found were like 250ish and had like 140k on them. If I can find it cheaper I would do it that way. I dono how thrilled I am about cuttin up the front end on a truck that I still owe 14k on. Oh and when I was lookin up the 1354s there were two different ones. Name:  NewAdobePhotoshopImagecopy.jpg
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buy from members not junkyards.
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2200 gets you a SAS from what i am told.
2200 would get you a pile of crap that still doesnt drive any better in the snow than your 2wd.
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If there were more people selling everything I need I would.
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2200 would get you a pile of crap that still doesnt drive any better in the snow than your 2wd.
Hey im 4wd. I thought for about 2200 your could SAS a 4wd ranger? Maybe im totally wrong??
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Hey im 4wd. I thought for about 2200 your could SAS a 4wd ranger? Maybe im totally wrong??
you could probably SAS an older ranger for that, but a 98-up its doubtful.
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you could probably SAS an older ranger for that, but a 98-up its doubtful.
I think that will just come down to who you know and what you can get for how much. Hehe. I have friends with a few D44s laying around that would work great.

But otherwise yeah good luck.
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I'll stick up for the the 30 if you go SAS. Im running 35s, an ARB, 4.56 gears, 35's, and V8 power. AND I WHEEL IT! Not like hey lets go play in the mud kinda wheeling either... I like rocks. So far it has held up fine, but I know its my weak link so I keep that in mind when I gotta bump over something. If I ever break it, I'll upgrade to Superior shafts and better u-joints.

But, in all honesty, your best bet would be to convert to factory style 4wd. You can do it a lot cheaper if you stay away from those types of junk yards. Pull-a-parts and pick and pulls are the only 2 that I recommend. Other thans those 2, buy from members on here, ebay, or craigslist.
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Yea I am just lookin at the cost of it all The fabrication doesnt scare me in the slightest. I will re consider all the costs of everything and the shipping cost of the stock 4wd conversion vs the D30. I personally am leaning tords the D30 just because of the mental image in my head of a solid axle and leafs making a truck a truck. It almost bothers me that my 04 is easier to steer then the wifes carrola. Its stuff like that, that kinda kills a truck for me. Plus I just think it would be kinda cool to just have a sas ranger lol. But like I said it really boils down to the cost with shipping included. I am leaning tord the jeep parts just cause their cheap and very abundant
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Let me ask you something though... why leafs? I mean, in the end, leafs can be ok, I have them on my jeep and it does fine, but I think that on the road, you can get a more dialed in and better driving vehicle with a link type suspension. Is it just a cost issue? You could most likely get some factory TTB style coil buckets to help save some fab work.
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Yea kinda a cost thing and a lazy/time/simplicity type thing. I got my 96 that will hopfully be done next week to drive while I do the swap. Plus this way if for what ever reason I blow somthing up its a very simple fix and I can just buy what I need from a scrap yard for dirt cheap. I got a few TTB buckets too off my 94 4wd my 92 4wd and my 92 2wd. I suppose that could just be the easier way to do it also lol I dono this is jsut kinda ball parking stuff still. How did you run you steering btw Do you have a build thread that I could steal ideas from?
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sweet thanks! Helps me out there. Also do you still have the stock components for your truck? For the right price I may be interested.
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