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need help asap with my 1354m!!!

i have acquired a bw 1354m and plan to install it tomorrow and came across a small issue. i jus took notice that my 1354 has a u-joint for the front drive shaft and not one of these......



i say "one of these" cause im unsure of there name. any body that can tell me what its called and a solution to this problem?
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nvm..... dug a little deeper into r-f and found my answer. but it only brings me to another....

since i have the more common 1354m with the yoke and not the tulip style front output.... what front drive shaft can i acquire that would work.

i received the 1354 from another r-f member and didnt think to question the front drive shaft.
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95-96 explorer front driveshaft will be the only direct bolt in.
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so i went to the junk yard and found a shaft from a electric shift 93-94 ranger but it looked like this 1354m.....



my front yoke is a slip yoke(able to be removed and doesnt have the bolt holes for the clips that hold the u-joint. just one solid peice.)
will it work on my tcase?
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your looking for a dual carbon front drive shaft to get it to work with the t case. the 90 to 97 ranger shafts will work but will need to be cut down to fit the only direct swap drive shaft out their is from a 95 to 96 explorer with the dual carbon style shaft, in the pic that is the shaft you want
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your looking for a dual carbon front drive shaft to get it to work with the t case. the 90 to 97 ranger shafts will work but will need to be cut down to fit the only direct swap drive shaft out their is from a 95 to 96 explorer with the dual carbon style shaft, in the pic that is the shaft you want
i dont know if thats an entirley true statement... the rangers and expos had the same front suspensions trannys motors and tcases, (not sure on the front section frame length) so wouldnt that mean the front shafts are the same? idk just wondering... and why only 95-96? why wouldnt other years with ttb fronts work?
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To end all issues....you should've listened to RazorsEdge. He's done a 4x4 swap with factory parts as have I. 95-96 Explorer front driveshaft is the only direct swap that is a perfect fit.

Get the one pictured.

EDIT: Also, 95-96 have the u-joint front output flange on the tcase. In 97 they switched to the tulip style like on 98+ Ranger's have. That is the reason for the different drive shafts.
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To end all issues....you should've listened to RazorsEdge. He's done a 4x4 swap with factory parts as have I. 95-96 Explorer front driveshaft is the only direct swap that is a perfect fit.

Get the one pictured.

EDIT: Also, 95-96 have the u-joint front output flange on the tcase. In 97 they switched to the tulip style like on 98+ Ranger's have. That is the reason for the different drive shafts.
Just to add a bit here. The reason the 91-94 explorer shafts and up to 97 ranger shafts wont work is because they are longer to accommodate the travel of the TTB whereas the SLA suspensions did not need that extra length since they don't move. This leaves the 95-96 explorer as the only years that are a direct bolt in because of the combo between SLA and u-joint style flanges.
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they are dual cardigan style drive shaft
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they are dual cardigan style drive shaft
Stop posting. Seriously. It is not a dual SWEATER style drive shaft. It's actually a double/dual cardan u-joint attached to the driveshaft.

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There needs to be a sticky about manual swaps
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they are dual cardigan style drive shaft
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well, at my expense you may all have a laugh at me. i made a rather large mistake. i ASSUMED the tcase i had received was a 1354m. however, it is indeed a 1350.












the tag reads: A2981 162714

my knowledge only goes so far and the little things can pass right by me. i failed to look close enough at the case (earlier) to take notice that there is "13-50" written all over. for protection the member on here, they will be kept anonymous. i took his word that it was a 1354m before shipment. i too made the mistake of assuming it was a 1354 due to the back of the case where the motor( if it was a 1354e) would go.

i had it for a week and not until i started cleaning it did it all start to show up.....

so, now what do i do for a front shaft?
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Thats first pic sure looks familiar.

I was pretty sure you had a 1350 since you said you had a slip yoke but I was hoping since you bought it from a member it was what you said it was (1354). I'd think the 95-96 shaft would work but you'd just have to swap the yoke. This is just a guess though, thats one reason why I decided to just go Level II.
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Thats first pic sure looks familiar.

I was pretty sure you had a 1350 since you said you had a slip yoke but I was hoping since you bought it from a member it was what you said it was (1354). I'd think the 95-96 shaft would work but you'd just have to swap the yoke. This is just a guess though, thats one reason why I decided to just go Level II.
that was my big mistake. i shouldnt have taken someones word with out asking all the right questions. prime example of "you know what they say about assuming....."

and a 95-96 expo drive shaft wont work..... i jus purchased the dual cardan drive shaft(out of a 95 expo) from my local yard. i figure, when i get my 1354m, at least ill have the drive shaft i will need.
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that was my big mistake. i shouldnt have taken someones word with out asking all the right questions. prime example of "you know what they say about assuming....."

and a 95-96 expo drive shaft wont work..... i jus purchased the dual cardan drive shaft(out of a 95 expo) from my local yard. i figure, when i get my 1354m, at least ill have the drive shaft i will need.
Why wont it work to swap the yokes on the exploder shaft.
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your looking for a dual carbon front drive shaft to get it to work with the t case. the 90 to 97 ranger shafts will work but will need to be cut down to fit the only direct swap drive shaft out their is from a 95 to 96 explorer with the dual carbon style shaft, in the pic that is the shaft you want
Hey...that pic looks awefully familiar to me...


lol. Yeah, pictured above is the donor rig for the direct bolt-in shaft. I always thought it was 95-97 expo, but in this thread it's mentioned as 95-96 only? Anywho, but seeing as though you've got yourself a 1350 and a double cardom 1354 shaft, those aren't interchangeable. Get yourself the 1354(and 1354 linkage since they aren't interchangeable) and start over. lol. Live and learn right?
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Hey...that pic looks awefully familiar to me...


lol. Yeah, pictured above is the donor rig for the direct bolt-in shaft. I always thought it was 95-97 expo, but in this thread it's mentioned as 95-96 only? Anywho, but seeing as though you've got yourself a 1350 and a double cardom 1354 shaft, those aren't interchangeable. Get yourself the 1354(and 1354 linkage since they aren't interchangeable) and start over. lol. Live and learn right?
I thought you were dead!
Whats the deal I don't even have a Ranger anymore and I'm on here more than you. You think we should hit this guy up for copyright infringment for stealing our pics?
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Nah... their names aren't Mykhael and they're not claiming they're their pics. lol.
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C'mon Shane. 97 was the first year on the explorers to use the tulip flanges. You of all people should know that!
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I don't....I coorelate it to when the Ranger's got that, which was '98. I always sorta thought it was it the expos got it too. IDK...Ford's retarded and I'm a noob, what can I say...

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Hey...that pic looks awefully familiar to me...


lol. Yeah, pictured above is the donor rig for the direct bolt-in shaft. I always thought it was 95-97 expo, but in this thread it's mentioned as 95-96 only? Anywho, but seeing as though you've got yourself a 1350 and a double cardom 1354 shaft, those aren't interchangeable. Get yourself the 1354(and 1354 linkage since they aren't interchangeable) and start over. lol. Live and learn right?
live and learn is correct.... lol. taught me not to take someones word unless i confirm it first.

but on another note, why wont the linkage from a 1350 work on the 1354? they look the same to me.

i will learn everything now before i source a new t-case.....
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live and learn is correct.... lol. taught me not to take someones word unless i confirm it first.

but on another note, why wont the linkage from a 1350 work on the 1354? they look the same to me.

i will learn everything now before i source a new t-case.....
1350 linkage will hit the 1354 front output. 1350 linkage has a bend in the long part of the arm and a straight piece at the case. 1354 linkage is flat in the long part of the arm and a bent piece at the case to clear the output.

Set 'em side by side and without shafts, it looks like they'll work because the bends are matched. And you can actually bolt the linkage up. But upon attempting to install the shaft, you realize it's no bueno. My hands raised for speaking of experience. lol.
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1350 linkage will hit the 1354 front output. 1350 linkage has a bend in the long part of the arm and a straight piece at the case. 1354 linkage is flat in the long part of the arm and a bent piece at the case to clear the output.

Set 'em side by side and without shafts, it looks like they'll work because the bends are matched. And you can actually bolt the linkage up. But upon attempting to install the shaft, you realize it's no bueno. My hands raised for speaking of experience. lol.
ill have to post pictures of my linkage. the one i have wasnt out of the same vehicle as my 1350. from what your saying, i think it may be the linkage from a 1354.
ill have pictures up tomorrow about this time. if you could check tomorrow on this thread and tell me if i have the right or wrong one, i would appreciate it!!!
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