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Signs of a manual trans going bad>>>????

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I've been having problems shifting....not actually shifting, but problems getting it into gear. It's very stiff, hard to get into gear, and I've got to play around with it to get it in. It started getting really bad today driving home from work.

I changed the clutch and slave last year and have put 15-20k on it and the new royal purple atf when the swap happend.

Anyway.....what are signs that a manual trans is going out??
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prolly right now, take it out ship it to me free of charge, then you wont have to wrry about it. :)

nah I'm not really sure.
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I hate to say it but it sounds like the slave again. Mine went out at 19,000 miles from new and had symptoms like yours. I'd like to come up with something different before my truck approaches 38K when I fully expect the replacement to fail.
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I was guessing the slave, because my truck is doing this agan and I only have 15k on this one. Oh well, I will wait a little longer and just do the centerforce clutch too...
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Mine is doing this at 63K, what happens when the slave cylendar goes? I don't want to be driving to work one day and all of a sudden be stranded.
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I hate to say it but it sounds like the slave again. Mine went out at 19,000 miles from new and had symptoms like yours. I'd like to come up with something different before my truck approaches 38K when I fully expect the replacement to fail.
How similar is the SOHC Transmissions to the OHV transmissions? my 2000 has 85k very rough miles on it, no transmission problems, my 05 had 19k easy road miles and it had the tranny go. Is the slave from the 2000 down OHV's that same part? or does anyone know if it will fit the 2001 and up trucks?
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How similar is the SOHC Transmissions to the OHV transmissions? my 2000 has 85k very rough miles on it, no transmission problems, my 05 had 19k easy road miles and it had the tranny go. Is the slave from the 2000 down OHV's that same part? or does anyone know if it will fit the 2001 and up trucks?
that is a good question my 92 ranger has the same tranny no problems and stock slave and 265k miles. my 2003 ranger has
83 and the slave went at 82.5k?
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the slave cyl in my 2000 went out at around 35k but didnt have any problems after and traded it at 88k.. as far as I know they are of the same hydraulic design
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Yea.....does anyone know of a better Slave cyl?? Raybestos, etc??? Like was said before, what about the OHV slave cyls?? Much of a difference compaired to the SOHC part???

I went with all FORD Genuine Parts when I did the swaps, due to me absolutely needing the stuff. Well......looks as though I'll deal with it until I absolutely can't drive it. And....Centerforce just came out with their dual friction clutch kit.......hmmmm......nice.
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Yea.....does anyone know of a better Slave cyl?? Raybestos, etc??? Like was said before, what about the OHV slave cyls?? Much of a difference compaired to the SOHC part???

I went with all FORD Genuine Parts when I did the swaps, due to me absolutely needing the stuff. Well......looks as though I'll deal with it until I absolutely can't drive it. And....Centerforce just came out with their dual friction clutch kit.......hmmmm......nice.

I some how managed to kill the center force dual friction kit in under 1000 miles! However, the OEM clutch that replaced it is acting up. Symptoms similar to you, which were symptoms similar to why I replaced with the centerforce. And I just replaced all this in Feb/March! Need less to say I'm thinking something is wrong with the truck. I've never had this much trouble with a transmission and I wasn't exactly nice on my 93 4.0L's manual tranny all the time. Drove my mom's exploder around for months and she has no problems with her tranny. I'm baffled, but I think I'm working on slave #4 since Oct 05! First slave at 19K miles when they (dealership here) misdiagnosed it as slave and found out it was pressure plate. New slave when centerforce kit went in, and 3rd slave and a new pilot bearing when the OEM stuff went back in at 48K. I'm currently at 50,411!
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I some how managed to kill the center force dual friction kit in under 1000 miles! However, the OEM clutch that replaced it is acting up. Symptoms similar to you, which were symptoms similar to why I replaced with the centerforce. And I just replaced all this in Feb/March! Need less to say I'm thinking something is wrong with the truck. I've never had this much trouble with a transmission and I wasn't exactly nice on my 93 4.0L's manual tranny all the time. Drove my mom's exploder around for months and she has no problems with her tranny. I'm baffled, but I think I'm working on slave #4 since Oct 05! First slave at 19K miles when they (dealership here) misdiagnosed it as slave and found out it was pressure plate. New slave when centerforce kit went in, and 3rd slave and a new pilot bearing when the OEM stuff went back in at 48K. I'm currently at 50,411!

Hot damn! Sounds like fun!! wow. When the centerforce functioned properly....how'd you like it?? I really like a nice firm clutch, not this stock "oooo, I'm soft and easy to drive" feeling. Did it have a nice firmless to it??

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It seems that most SOHC trucks have lots of Transmission problems. My 05 had the clutch go out at 19k. Ive never towed with it and I was never really hard on as it never saw dirt and was just daily driven. When they took the clutch out, there was a lot of bluing (sign of overheating) and it had some deep scratches in it. The truck always shifted like crap though. even when we got it, it was stiff going into gears. They it got progressivly worse till it failed. I then put about 4000 more miles after getting it replaced, and it did the same thing and continued to get worse and worse. But I traded it in so I dont know if she is still kicking on that same clutch or not.
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Hot damn! Sounds like fun!! wow. When the centerforce functioned properly....how'd you like it?? I really like a nice firm clutch, not this stock "oooo, I'm soft and easy to drive" feeling. Did it have a nice firmless to it??

Thanks!!

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It seems that most SOHC trucks have lots of Transmission problems. My 05 had the clutch go out at 19k. Ive never towed with it and I was never really hard on as it never saw dirt and was just daily driven. When they took the clutch out, there was a lot of bluing (sign of overheating) and it had some deep scratches in it. The truck always shifted like crap though. even when we got it, it was stiff going into gears. They it got progressivly worse till it failed. I then put about 4000 more miles after getting it replaced, and it did the same thing and continued to get worse and worse. But I traded it in so I dont know if she is still kicking on that same clutch or not.
I'm REALLY thinking about trading this Level II in for an older ranger with the OHV. The tranny on my 93 was great!
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I have a lot of clutch problems with my ohv. Mostly bearings. My pilot bearing went out. replaced it, and everything in there oh say 9000 miles ago. My pilot bearing is bad again. Plus I think my tranny is about to shiat itself as well. Its tough to shift, feels very metal on metal like every shift, plus the clutch pops way early now, its like driving a sports car, and I have a lot of play in the pedal. But my truck is soo messed up no I think IM just going to keep driving it until everything explodes and goes up in a firey ball of glory.

plus my clutch slips a tiny bit.. flat land, fourth gear, just letting the clutch out I can get the truck to move about 2 feet before it dies...
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have you ever considered the master cylinder? The master cylinder went out in my 99 and it was a pain to shift b/c the plate/pad weren't disengaing enough to free it up. Fortunely, the master cylinder can be 'bench' tested while it is still mounted as it is on the firewall... I believe you can get a rebuild kit for it?
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Nah...I didn't change it out when I swapped all the other parts because, it was just fine. It's just plain old hard to shift. If the problems continues, I'll look into it more in depth. Anthony, thanks for the info.
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my manual fried this past friday. After installing the centerforce (by a shop) I had problems shifting into first at idle. Coasting down to a stop was not a problem. At idle it wouldn't move. I had to shut the engine off.

Thats the only symptom I had of anything ill unitl I screached to a stop from 60 mph coming home. I got it in the ditch. When the locked up rears hit the fresh green grass it got it sliding hard enough to go sideways. When i finally stopped i was blocking the hiway.

I do so much towing i'm 90% going with an automatic this time around. A GM 700r4 is non computer contolled and adapters are out there to fit both the 4.0 and the transfer case. I would assume the computer would still think a manual was attached.
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Do we seriously have the same block to trans bolt pattern as a small chevy???? Man, That opens up a whole lot of possibilities for trans swaps. I love my old '79 chevy w/ 700r4, becuase I could drag race the truck and lock out the 4th gear.
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advance adapters makes it work. There will be issues- speedo? TV cable. Y-pipe is in the way on a sohc, but not ohv. I sent you a link of work in progress by someone else.
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woah. wow....two weeks after this thread started, my trans did go bye-bye.
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