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ttb vs. ifs

what is better and why? on a ranger 4x4 of couse.
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IMO IFS..ttb is all clunky and stuff..
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I had a TTB on my Bronco II and I know have IFS. I think for durability and function the IFS is sturdier and a much better design. The TTB when you take a look at the travel of the tires it is like a pair of parenthises*spelling. ( ) the tire don't go up and down they travel in an arc. The IFS allows for straight up and down travel on both sides of the truck.

However it is easier to lift and modify a TTB because it is a coil spring. The IFS has torsion bars and lifts are very spendy. I know I could lift a TTB truck for half of what I could lift a IFS ranger.

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TTB has more flex with sway bar removed then IFS with removed... TTB has the manual locking hubs... IFS and TTB are rated max wheeling size of 35" tire before you have problems. honestly its a toss up with what you like personally i like nether SFA all the way....
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in my opinion in off road situations, the TTB is better....in on road situations, the SLA front suspension is better......

the TTB off road has more flex than the SLA front ends....it also allows one wheel to flex while the other wheel is completely on the ground with a good foot print......and with the way it pivots in the center of the truck instead of on the outter corners like the SLA, it allows for more of a stable rig....and the TTB is more like a solid axle than the SLA suspensions are..........

now onroad the TTB completely sucks! it is hard to keep a TTB aligned and the way the wheels travel, the inner most part of the tire gets more wear than the rest of the tire...

The Dana 35 TTB is easier to lift, and has a better aftermarket following than the SLA Dana 35.....there are more aftermarket parts and add ons than the SLA Dana 35.....also the TTB Dana 35 can be upgraded with F-150 Dana 44 TTB parts to make it A LOT stronger (steering knuckles, spindles, brakes, and u-joints).....those are simply BOLT ON parts to the TTB Dana 35.....this gives it an even greater advantage over the SLA Dana 35....

not to be an ***, but as this question on a hardcore off road site and see what their answers are.......most will say the TTB...
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i say screw both and SAS which TTB takes the lead cause we already have coil buckets mounted for lift coils on a SFA oh so sexy....
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i say screw both and SAS which TTB takes the lead cause we already have coil buckets mounted for lift coils on a SFA oh so sexy....
and the TTB already has the steering box instead of that crappy rack and pinion...
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both suck ... sfa is better .....but ttb better off road, ifs better on road
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and the TTB already has the steering box instead of that crappy rack and pinion...
anther plus TTB takes the lead by 10 car lenths...
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both suck ... sfa is better .....but ttb better off road, ifs better on road
exactly!
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i see
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TTB. more durable. less crap to break. easier to work on. cheaper parts.
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Excuse my newbness, but the lingo has me lost here. If someone would be so kind as to fill in the blanks... what do all these stand for?
SFA, SAS, SLA, IFS, TTB...? And any others I should know about
Just want to get my $#17 straight. lol TIA
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TTB= twin traction beam
SLA= short long arm
IFS=independent front suspension
SAS=solid axle swap
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SFA= Solid front axle...
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i say screw both and SAS which TTB takes the lead cause we already have coil buckets mounted for lift coils on a SFA oh so sexy....
You mean like this?

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Simple enough... what do the TTB and SLA setups look like?
From the looks of it a SAS would be the easiest way to go with a 4x4 conversion. (makes mental note) Looks alot tougher too.
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Simple enough... what do the TTB and SLA setups look like?
From the looks of it a SAS would be the easiest way to go with a 4x4 conversion. (makes mental note) Looks alot tougher too.
a SAS is by far the better of the two,though a pain in the *** wit fabicating. It's less you have to worry about when going bigger than 35's
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Simple enough... what do the TTB and SLA setups look like?
From the looks of it a SAS would be the easiest way to go with a 4x4 conversion. (makes mental note) Looks alot tougher too.
if you look at the front axle of my truck, that is a TTB (Twin Traction Beam)


this is a SLA suspension....


you can see were the pivot points of the suspension is at the outter edge nearer the wheels.......

stole this pic from zabeard...that is what the SLA front suspensions look like....
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You mean like this?
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You mean like this?


is that your other ranger?
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You mean like this?

nm.....i see it now!.....
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SFA and IFS would have to use rack and pinion steering correct?
Is the TTB pretty much standard setup for the older trucks? Tha'ts what mine uses, I can't decide if I want to use ttb or sfa when/if I ever make my truck 4wd.
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SFA and IFS would have to use rack and pinion steering correct?
Is the TTB pretty much standard setup for the older trucks? Tha'ts what mine uses, I can't decide if I want to use ttb or sfa when/if I ever make my truck 4wd.
I think SFA uses a steering box, and of course the IFS uses rack and pinion. 1998 is when they changed the front suspension to IFS, previous years used the TTB.......Im no expert on suspension, but I'd use a SFA, I think its better on, and offroad.....plus, with a SFA, you can lift the truck more b/c basically all you do is put longer coil springs on (or leafs) and a drop pitman (basically). As I said though, im not an expert.
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I think SFA uses a steering box, and of course the IFS uses rack and pinion. 1998 is when they changed the front suspension to IFS, previous years used the TTB.......Im no expert on suspension, but I'd use a SFA, I think its better on, and offroad.....plus, with a SFA, you can lift the truck more b/c basically all you do is put longer coil springs on (or leafs) and a drop pitman (basically). As I said though, im not an expert.
see the TTB is also a form of and independent suspension since it does not have a 1 piece axle and it pivots in 2 places.....and the TTB, TIB both use a steering box like the SFA.......the TTB has more characterists like a solid axle, but an independent suspension...
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