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well aaron, my post was ment as a little joke, you know humor, satire if you will. your post from the start was flaming kyle and i quote (you texan hoser!). and it went to hell from there.
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I don't know the details, I just know what he told me. I know what I've seen and heard. Believe me or don't, it's not my problem. I can't imagine why you'd think I'd be making something like that up, it wouldn't benefit me in any way, so whatever. It's enough to keep me from doing a body lift and for me to advise against a body lift for anyone who does any type of fast driving off-road (be it jumping, pre-running, mudding, whatever). Plenty of people have run body lifts just fine, and more power to them. That's just not a risk I am willing to take.

See, thats what I mean. No experience, just word of mouth? They don't allow that evidence in court, why should it mean anything? I think I once saw that "Pinecone" once had a bodylift puck shift or something, which is why im interested.

There's lots of people like you, saying they hate body lifts, but they have no experience. they quote stuff that they cannot back up.


I made a picture, cause I seriously cannot understand how these body lifts **** up.



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well aaron, my post was ment as a little joke, you know humor, satire if you will. your post from the start was flaming kyle and i quote (you texan hoser!). and it went to hell from there.
that wasn't satire. Look up the definition. And no I wasn't flaming kyle; he called me a toolbag lol. We're friends enough that we can do that. I talk to him on AIM all the time.

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My biggest fear with a body lift would be something close to the first one. It's called a shearing force, basically where you're travelling forward and something stops the frame of the truck. The cab wants to keep moving forward because of inertia, and you have a force directed forward at the body lift bolts. This could be enough to cause a bolt to bend, cause sheetmetal to tear, cause pucks to bend, or in some cases rip the head of the bolt clean off. The pucks don't necessarily have to tilt at an angle for the shearing force to apply.

This force is also accentuated by having the cab up and off of the frame. The frame provides support for the cab at places other than just the body mounts, and when you body lift you lose that support from the frame, and the frame loses the support of the cab also.

I don't hate body lifts, I just choose not to use one. I think if it suits your needs then it's perfect. That's all there is to it.

And I still maintain that I saw a ranger that was totally f***ed after jumping with a body lift. You can believe me or you can not believe me. This isn't court it's a web forum and I'm sharing my experience. Take it or leave it
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^hahaha Aaron obviously passed his kindergarten coloring book class...but then again it wouldnt be hard in alaska...all they have to do is turn in a white piece of paper and say...look its snow...in september....haha sucka...way to keep the color between the lines!
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Hows this for drawin inbetween the lines, *****


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Thats funny...but why are you hitting andy?
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you're andy
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what ever helps you sleep at night
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My biggest fear with a body lift would be something close to the first one. It's called a shearing force, basically where you're travelling forward and something stops the frame of the truck. The cab wants to keep moving forward because of inertia, and you have a force directed forward at the body lift bolts. This could be enough to cause a bolt to bend, cause sheetmetal to tear, cause pucks to bend, or in some cases rip the head of the bolt clean off. The pucks don't necessarily have to tilt at an angle for the shearing force to apply.

This force is also accentuated by having the cab up and off of the frame. The frame provides support for the cab at places other than just the body mounts, and when you body lift you lose that support from the frame, and the frame loses the support of the cab also.

I don't hate body lifts, I just choose not to use one. I think if it suits your needs then it's perfect. That's all there is to it.

And I still maintain that I saw a ranger that was totally f***ed after jumping with a body lift. You can believe me or you can not believe me. This isn't court it's a web forum and I'm sharing my experience. Take it or leave it
ive seen that truck, i have the pic somewhere, i need to dig it up.

and trust me i think the BL weakens it. you should have seen all the stuff that shifted from when they were trying to pull me out of the hole. not cool. none of it would have shifted if i didnt have a BL, im almost 100% sure.

i would take mine off. but i just havnt figured out how to make my 35s fit yet. and no money for new 33s.
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Show me a picture. I'm not for body lifting in desert trucks. But so far I've NEVER seen a ranger with bodylift that shifted teh frame.

Aaron

your not thinking hard enough..

look at these pics, the body line, the bed inline with the back window.

the puck pushed through the bed bent the bottom side of the bed
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your not thinking hard enough..
Aaron has that problem sometimes
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Aaron has that problem sometimes

WTF? Was i supposed to magically think those pics off of his harddrive? Anyways, I dont see how his body pucks ****ed up. I mean ****, my bed is out of whack, and i got in a slight carcrash. Its sortof shaped funny.

Of course ill take his word for it, tho because he saw it with his own eyes.

But I'd really like to see a pick of hte body pucks messed up, or something bent. He was the one not thinking, that's why his truck got ****ed up.

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But I'd really like to see a pick of hte body pucks messed up, or something bent. He was the one not thinking, that's why his truck got ****ed up.

Aaron

i prolly should have taken a pic but i didnt.

i was thinking, just not clearly. we tried to get it out with what we had, not thinking to call a tow truck.
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.... yeah anyway....

As someone who frequents the deserts in SoCal... I'm opposed to them... I wouldn't hate someone if they had one, but I wouldn't put one on my truck. As someone said earlier, I think it's just a cheap, easy way out. For me and for some other people I'm sure as well, it also comes down to that "function over form" issue... I'd much rather spend my few hundred bucks on upgrading to LT or something... so it's not that I don't like them... but I think they weren't meant to be used for certain off-road types and not so much for others.... like mall crawling... not romping in the desert, haha!

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