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I have a vista blue 2007 ranger sport 4x4 4 door. It just got a fresh coat of paint and now the lights are looking a bit dated. I've changed the bulbs but I want to upgrade to leds front and back. I know mine can be brought back to new but i want to change the look of my ranger. I've seen spec D and spyder offer a few variations. I'd prefer black housing but not smoked. I definatly don't want clear or chrome. Just my preference. My concerns are functionality, fitment, and ease of installation. I also don't want to burn up my electrical. I saw a video of spec D led headlights. The looked nice but there was a fitment issue.
if you have installed any of these and are happy with the results I'd love to see a image both day and night.
I believe these are spec d leds. The fitment issue i saw in a video was on the side marker light side. Im not sure if the guy didnt know what he was doing though
Originally Posted by MaDMaXX
Not sure too many people have done these, i've seen mostly bulb upgrades, maybe poke Bugman on here, he does LED upgrade stuff.
oh wow, I've read many of bugmans post. Kind of a legend to me. I didn't think he would still be around. I'll search him up. Hope he's not too busy with the holidays coming up. Thank you!
Last edited by Eddie Money; Nov 12, 2017 at 08:13 PM.
I believe these are spec d leds. The fitment issue i saw in a video was on the side marker light side. Im not sure if the guy didnt know what he was doing though
oh wow, I've read many of bugmans post. Kind of a legend to me. I didn't think he would still be around. I'll search him up. Hope he's not too busy with the holidays coming up. Thank you!
I have the LED tail lights you’re referring to. I’ve been happy with them. Install was simple and I haven’t had any issues with them over about 3 years. Don’t have any good night output shots at the moment.
I used to have those halo style headlights. They’re garbage. A pain to install, only about half of the LEDs worked after a couple months, and the light output wasn’t good either.
I switched back to stock housings with retrofitted projectors, and the difference is incredible. I also swapped the side marker bulbs and blinkers to LED. The blinkers are switchbacks, meaning they are white until you activate the blinker, when they switch to yellow. You need an EP27 relay to make this work properly (whether you use switchbacks or just yellow LEDs) but they’re cheap and easy to install.
I have the LED tail lights you’re referring to. I’ve been happy with them. Install was simple and I haven’t had any issues with them over about 3 years. Don’t have any good night output shots at the moment.
I used to have those halo style headlights. They’re garbage. A pain to install, only about half of the LEDs worked after a couple months, and the light output wasn’t good either.
I switched back to stock housings with retrofitted projectors, and the difference is incredible. I also swapped the side marker bulbs and blinkers to LED. The blinkers are switchbacks, meaning they are white until you activate the blinker, when they switch to yellow. You need an EP27 relay to make this work properly (whether you use switchbacks or just yellow LEDs) but they’re cheap and easy to install.
thank you thank you thank you!!! I was worried about the headlights being a disappointment especially with the high cost. The videos I watched didn't give me much confidence either.
Could you reply with a list of parts for your led retrofit or guide me to a video or link? Does this improve night visibility? Did you retrofit the fog lights too? If so, can they be done in yellow?
I wish there was a way to incorporate the side markers as turn indicators. When I'm on my way home I take a left at a T intersection to get on my street and often have cars not notice I'm turning and they try and go left into me. Sounds like another good thread I should start.
thank you in advance!!
Last edited by Eddie Money; Nov 14, 2017 at 01:39 AM.
Side markers linked to indicators is an easy mod in the how-to section.
If you're not running white fog lights, you run yellow, do not run amber, you will not see anything with them.
in the states you cant find true yellow fog lights. Only yellow tinted bulbs at least before leds. So yellow was what I meant. Edited previous post. Lol. I'll search it up. Thank you.
edit, ok I found the blinker mod. Just wish I could see the pics. Mines an 07. Gonna search up the led retrofit tomorrow. Thanks madmaxx
https://www.ranger-forums.com/general-technical-electrical-18/2007-ranger-blinker-mod-78792/
Last edited by Eddie Money; Nov 14, 2017 at 01:38 AM.
Personally, i wouldn't bother with colouring fogs, just pick a more halogen colour (soft white) if you don't like white fogs.
I prefer yellow fog lights. In my opinion they actually help with visibility in fog. The white fog lights look nice but in real fog they are useless except for oncoming vehicles.
thank you thank you thank you!!! I was worried about the headlights being a disappointment especially with the high cost. The videos I watched didn't give me much confidence either.
Could you reply with a list of parts for your led retrofit or guide me to a video or link? Does this improve night visibility? Did you retrofit the fog lights too? If so, can they be done in yellow?
I wish there was a way to incorporate the side markers as turn indicators. When I'm on my way home I take a left at a T intersection to get on my street and often have cars not notice I'm turning and they try and go left into me. Sounds like another good thread I should start.
thank you in advance!!
To answer your questions, here are a few helpful links on projector retrofits that have pictures. The basic parts list is the same, but you'll notice that everyone does theirs a little different by adding LEDs, halos, different shrouds, etc.
In order to make the LEDs work for the blinker bulbs, you'll need an ep27 relay. It plugs into the relay box under the steering wheel. I got the LEDs from superbrightleds.com
Here are some pics I took right after the install:
I'm sure you could retrofit the fog light housings if you wanted to; you'll just need smaller projectors. I don't remember seeing anyone on here do it, but I'm sure it's probably been done before.
I know you can buy some fog light housings on Ebay that have projectors in them, but I'd recommend against it. I had them for a short time, and had a lot of issues with water infiltration and the halos not working right.
I prefer yellow fog lights. In my opinion they actually help with visibility in fog. The white fog lights look nice but in real fog they are useless except for oncoming vehicles.
depending on where you're at, yellow fogs aren't legal.
Yes, yellow tinged fogs can assist in some conditions, but Dusten is right, in the States, you might have law issues.
Also bear in mind actual fog lights are supposed to be low, people here call bumper mounted lights, fog lights, when they're spot lights, or off road lights they're called here. Fog lights as you know, need to shine under the fog, not through it.
Having messed with yellow bulbs in England, they seem more to change the way the road appears, it has no affect on fog lighting.
I am pretty sure yellow bulbs as long as they are DOT are 100% legal whether they are yellow or white. Other colors no, but from everything I have read that should be OK. Hell many manufactures produced cars that came from the factory with yellow fog lights so there should be no issues there in terms of if those are allowed or not.
Mind you if you stuck a HID bulb (rebased) in a fog light housing then that would be grounds for not passing an inspection or illegal because those are not DOT bulbs.
I have always changed out the foglights to oem yellow Piaa ion bulbs. There is something about have HID headlights and nice yellow foglights that just looks good to me. My subie's like that, our w211, ranger, wife's solara. Only thing that isn't like that now is my wife's new Lexus NX but every light on that is oem led, and the fronts are pure white. No changing that unfortunately.
I swapped out all bulbs to LEDs on the ranger. Did the L1224R conversion in the rear. Looks good and is an OEM bulb. For the front do a projector retrofit. Any aftermarket headlight you choose is going to use subpar optics, which includes the spyder line of lights, that's 100% fact.
I am pretty sure yellow bulbs as long as they are DOT are 100% legal whether they are yellow or white. Other colors no, but from everything I have read that should be OK. Hell many manufactures produced cars that came from the factory with yellow fog lights so there should be no issues there in terms of if those are allowed or not.
Mind you if you stuck a HID bulb (rebased) in a fog light housing then that would be grounds for not passing an inspection or illegal because those are not DOT bulbs.
I have always changed out the foglights to oem yellow Piaa ion bulbs. There is something about have HID headlights and nice yellow foglights that just looks good to me. My subie's like that, our w211, ranger, wife's solara. Only thing that isn't like that now is my wife's new Lexus NX but every light on that is oem led, and the fronts are pure white. No changing that unfortunately.
I swapped out all bulbs to LEDs on the ranger. Did the L1224R conversion in the rear. Looks good and is an OEM bulb. For the front do a projector retrofit. Any aftermarket headlight you choose is going to use subpar optics, which includes the spyder line of lights, that's 100% fact.
-Nigel
Washington requires amber or white and it differentiates yellow from amber.
I recently needed new headlight bulbs for my 1999 Ranger 2 door Std cab. I had buffed the lenses a couple of times, and didn't want to spend the money on new bulbs fir the old lenses.
I bought a pair of new OEM headlight assemblies. When I checked on bulbs, I wanted some good ones. I had been using SilverStar Ultra bulbs, but they have really went up in cost, and are still not much more than 1300 lumens per bulb.
I found some lights called NINEO 9007 Cool White LED bulbs rated at 3600 lumens for $48.00 online, so I bought them. The results are amazing. They have good cutoff in the stock headlight assembles, are very white (6000K) and the high beams are amazing.
They do really illuminate anything reflective, so road signs seems too bright until you get used to them, but it really helps the see the road strips on a rainy night. So far, the best lights of any vehicle I have ever owned. Recommended by Harry.
I got an led conversion for my 98 but the stock housings are cone shaped and don't have clear lenses, the leds have a reflector that would shine the light on the top of the cone and it would bounce back onto the ground in front of me looking light I had turned on fog lights. I have since gotten depo clear lights and have installed them and they are wonderful have a much better cutoff and keep the light where it is supposed to be. Shining it up onto the tree's and road ahead. Much better, however keep in mind that I have expensive GTR 3rd gen lighting leds. I will follow up with pictures in the days following.
I decided to stick with oem head lights because I didn't get an overwhelming feeling that leds would improve visibility. I may try led fog lights in the front and I haven't seen a rear led conversion I liked yet.
the vehicle pictured is a ranger stx I believe, with a homemade raptor style grill.
Last edited by Eddie Money; Mar 11, 2018 at 09:39 AM.
I purchased a set of LED Fogs from Amazon, we will have to wait and see what happens.
48 Watts/ea, with an Amber Directional Strip in the middle. (???$25/pr with free shipping)
A good price if the lights work out, got them to fit my Custom 4x4 Fab Bumper, using KC Backup Lights in the rear bumper.
Front Bumper has a 4" Hole and the Lights are 3.54 inches (90mm), fitment should work, although I need to reverse the mounting bracket to extend the light inside of the opening... (from pictures) we will see !