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Old 04-10-2006
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turbo question

ok here it is one of my friends has a turbo off of his old talon. its an exaust turbo and all. would that work on my 2.5 or not. the motor its for is the 2.0. if it would work how hard would it be to do or would it be farly easy. and would i ned to git any thing else for like intrnals and all or woul dit be fine. Thanks...
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all turbos run off the exhaust.... however it would take too much custom fabrication to make that turbo fit to ur truck... it would take a lot of $$$$$$$$

however even if u do find a turbo set up that will fit ur truck depending on how much boost u run and how much power u want will determine if ur internals can withstand the power...
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the only thing we can hope for is that since the new mustang has our engine more aftermarket parts will start coming out and it wont be such a pain to mod our trucks
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Umm the new mustang does not have a 2.5L in it. It has a 4.0 as the smallest engine. So getting v6 parts to fit on a 4cyl will be interesting.

As said all turbo's are run after the exhaust. There are a few recent topics about putting turbo's on a Ranger. It is alot of money and alot of fabrication. And not to be mean, but since you don't know how a turbo runs, then I highly doubt this is the project for you.

People use to turbo the 2.3L, because it was easy since there used to be a thunderbird turbocoupe and it was easy to mate that system to the 2.3L in the Ranger.

What year is your truck so we can further assist you?
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Umm the new mustang does not have a 2.5L in it. It has a 4.0 as the smallest engine. So getting v6 parts to fit on a 4cyl will be interesting.

As said all turbo's are run after the exhaust. There are a few recent topics about putting turbo's on a Ranger. It is alot of money and alot of fabrication. And not to be mean, but since you don't know how a turbo runs, then I highly doubt this is the project for you.
****... didn't pay attention to that part... i was thinkin of the 4.0

but i do agree... putting a turbo on a n/a vechicle is not something u can just do... u gotta know ur ****....
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Custom turbo is the hard part, putting turbos on cars that already have a base and lots of help is the easy part.

Like putting a turbo on my CRX, easy. Turboing a 2.5, all custom, not so easy.
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I know a little bit on it but not much. I know i might have to git custom made pistons and conecting rods so it fits my 2.5 crank casue i heard the conecting rods ain t that strong. He told me he would sell the turbo for a bout 50 dallaz with every thing beside a intercooler and 2 hoses that i can just git outa a turboed car from a junk yard or sumtin. And do any of u know were i could find out how a turbo is set up in a car caus etheres these 2 line that go somewere but dont know were they go and all. my freind said its for the oil but dosent know were they hook up at. and yea idk. ill git a lil more info later but thanks guys so far.
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ITs not as easy as just slapping it on your exhaust pipe. You need to mount it and everything. Car turbo's are easy, because they have the knowledge base already. The truck is a whole nother story because there is hardly any info at all on it.
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first of all the two hoses mentioned are ur hot side and cold side pipe to the intercooler... ur gonna have to get custom ones... not just any pipes are gonna fit onto ur truck... its not that easy... and yes u will have to drill into ur oil pan to run oil lines to the turbo... and just so u know ur gonna have a **** load of vaccume lines coming off that turbo... these things take some knowledge to set up right especially when ur vechicle isn't designed for it...

and even if u did get it on there and hooked up right.. then u have the whole issue of tuning... cause ur A/F ratio is gonna be all jacked up.... wastegate is gonna have to be tuned... and im sure u'll have ur fair share of boost leaks
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if u wanna go turbo put in a turbo 2.3...either way do some research on teh subject matter http://www.rangerpowersports.com
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I'm not quite sure what the current exchange rate on dallaz to US dollars is, but the general consensus is you should save your money or find a book on Turbocharging and start doing a lot of research. Even then, you're going to find putting a turbo on an engine with no base for a turbo is probably going to run in the thousands. Good luck with it though if you do decide to pursue it. But you'll probably find out your current platform isn't the ideal engine to begin this project.
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actually there are at least 2 people on TRS so far who have turbod the 2.5 lima, seeing as it is the same block as the 2.3 lima all of the turboing information relative to the 2.3 Lima is the same. you still have to deal with either running limited boost or dropping in forged pistons. the rods can handle things fine. look around some more and do some more research on things. there is a lot of good info on TRS in the tech-library and a ton more info in the forced induction forum. another possibility is swapping in a 2.3T from a turbocoupe or svo or merkur and swapping the engine management from your truck onto it and then trying to deal with getting your computer to fuel the turbo motor properly.
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the rods on the 2.5 are weaker then the 2.3 N/A. I heard several people say not to run boost on the stock 2.5. Also it's gonna be pricey to keep your ODBII system...i believe a tuner for it is around $400
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Go for it. Turboing a truck is no different than doing it for a car in my eyes. I would see no problem in doing you truck. As far as upgrading your internals, you have to decide how much boost your gonna be pushin. If you do 6 pounds you should be fine. If you push 10lbs. i give your truck one week of survival on stock internals. Another you need to look for is managment. if you just get an FMU thats prolly the cheapest and easiest way to go. Do some research and see what style manifold other owners have been able to use in their's. Do you have a manifold allready? Honestly if you do all the work your self you put togother a turbo kit for 800 bucks i would say. If you had a honda...500 bucks. But i've done several kits for honda cars and have thought about doing a twin turbo setup on my camaro. It really isnt all that hard or expensive like i said if you can weld. As far as your oil lines go you will need two. One from the turbo to the oil pan and one from your oil sending unit to your turbo. I havent looked but im sure they make oil line kits for your truck. So the main things you need are...

Manifold
Turbo
Some charge piping
Intercooler
Some form of Fuel managment
Blow off valve
Some couplers and clamps

Feel free to ask me any questions about anything turbo related.
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FI isn't for the faint of heart nor for the non mechanically inclined.

There is a crap ton of maintenance involved and it can be a bit of a daunting task but can be accomplished on anything. If the car is OBD2 compliant and has to stay that way, then you have a problem right off the bat.

And FMU and a set of check valves can replace the lack of tunability but the end result is not worth it as fuel mileage and driveability will suffer severely.

As far as a lot of vacuum lines, having a clean well built turbo setup costs you two more vacuum lines, that's it. On oil tee off the pressure sensor for the idiot light and a 8-10 an bung welded into your oil pan above the oil line to return it. That can be a lot of fun but believe me when I tell you it's not something to jump into lightly. Do a lot of research first. The reason so many people tear up the cars is lack of knowledge. PSI doesn't break internals of have the slightest affect on them, horsepower breaks parts.

All turbos not being equal, PSI is not equal either. A larger A/R turbo will produce a significantly higher horsepower level at the same psi as a lower A/R turbo.

Another thing to consider is RPM/spool characteristics of the turbo you are looking at. A smaller one will offer instant response and good around town power but will die off up top and be a restriction. A larger one will trade off with later spool but make up for it with yard tons of power up top.

Trading off a bit of spool time for an amazing rush of power up top can be worth it in some peoples eyes. Take it from someone running an SC6176E on a 1.6 liter. It doesn't even spool until 5500 rpms but from there until 8600 rpms it is one wicked ride plus it helps you keep the car out of boost just cruising around town and that saves a lot on gas.

I have turboed or sprayed so many vehicles I can't even count so I would be more than happy to answer any questions you have, just ask man.
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does any one know if i hook up a 2.3 turbo charger to my 2.5 ranger and just run 5psi would it be safe or can i do that or what all would i need? please email me if u know any of this [email protected]
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Hey you might wanna try this
http://www.truckblog.com/story-110-n...s_remote_turbo

this turbo replaces your muffler and would be easier to setup
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Search around in THIS forum on RPS. Enough searching will yeild an answer to every question posed in this thread.

And when I say search first I really mean it. Just a heads up, but if you go over there and ask "can I turbo my 2.5? let me know" you'll more than likely be thrown to the dogs. If you show that you did some research first though we/they are more than willing to help.

Turboing isn't just a walk in the park, but no one is going to hold your hand either. We (the guys in the turbo section) have all gone through the same thing at one point. And the easiest way to get questions answered is to search, search,search,search,search,search,search, and when you've done that, search some more.

FYI, the FAQ's have been down for a while with no way to get them back it looks like, but all the info is there to turbo a Ranger.

Good luck.
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aight i am in the process of researching the process and buying of parts to turbo my 97 eec-v 2.3 ranger and the guy that is helping me out has a 98 2.5 i believe....the ob2 turbo swap is actually a better swap, for the reason that you can do all your tuning and data logging through your factory ecu.....but you do have to pull your engine out and get a set of factory forged rods and pistons out of one of the many turbo vehicles that ford has made in the past ie turbocoupe, merkur , capri, and slap those into your block....as well as that you will need the e6 manifold/stinger header, oil lines for the turbo, IC, piping, and a tuner for your ecu wich will run you in the nieghborhood of 400, and this is a very basic list....you will need more....but then you also have to be mechanically inclined to install it all, or have the money to shell out for someone else to do it. hope this helps some
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good first post Ben.
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ok i know its beeen awhile since the last post but i cant help but shine some light on this
ok im doing this same build im using a the stinger header HX-35 turbo 38mm Wg and weisco pistons and Crower rods i got the piston and rods from racerwalsh
this is a very good build since the 2.5 head flows alot better than the turbo head you will need larger injectors and maf and a tune you'll need a 255lph FP if its a 5sppeed you'll be alright if you upgrade your clutch to a stage 3 clutch 1035 headgasket intercooler and piping with this set up i guess at 300+hp im looking for low 13's but mainly to keep up with the guys i hang out with
eg. evo formulas GTO's i know im not gonna touch this guy but i wanna suprise him but an 03' cobra i got all this info from the turbo ranger forum that jesshwarren started its not very active but i learn something new every time i visit it
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that turbo u are talking about is a t25 or a 14b eather or they are small turbos t25 is good to about 14psi and the 14b is like 16psi.....but that turbo use a mishu housing so ur going to need to make an adapter to make it fit a mani......those turbo well spool fast on the 2.5 and they can go to about 7.4k rpm......there cheap i can get then for about 100bucks in great condation.....if u have the time and money u can do it...anything is possiable now days.....they sell turbo mani's for ur truck on ebay and u can make an adaptor out of 2" block of metal...i have seen some turbos on cars u would never think about.
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Wow this is old. lol.. Yea i learned alot sence then and now got a holset hx35 goin on the 2.5 with other things happening to it and all.
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you can push 25psi out of that
16?
wth
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that turbo u are talking about is a t25 or a 14b eather or they are small turbos t25 is good to about 14psi and the 14b is like 16psi.....but that turbo use a mishu housing so ur going to need to make an adapter to make it fit a mani......those turbo well spool fast on the 2.5 and they can go to about 7.4k rpm......there cheap i can get then for about 100bucks in great condation.....if u have the time and money u can do it...anything is possiable now days.....they sell turbo mani's for ur truck on ebay and u can make an adaptor out of 2" block of metal...i have seen some turbos on cars u would never think about.
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you can push 25psi out of that
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wth
WTF are you two talking about? The HX-35 is a Dodge Cummins Diesel Turbo. Has NOTHING to do with Mitsu, 14PSI, or the price of tea in China.

The HX and HY turbo's are just getting into their happy places at 30PSI.


The "turbo headers" they sell on ebay for the 2.3/2.5's are pure junk. If you want to buy that exact header, then buy it from Stinger at stingerperformance.com. Those headers on ebay are his headers that didn't pass quality control and are being sold for cheaper. They will fail.
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