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I don't doubt they drive nice. My gripe is with emissions equipment and all the bells and whistles that make it more of a luxury car than a truck


So you're upset because new diesels can do everything and more then the older diesels...and in the mean time have all the modern luxuries, get better gas mileage, burn cleaner, have more power, exc? Hmmm...

Top of the line trucks back in the day still had "all of the bells and whistles" for that era....and they seem out of date now.

My 96 Eddie Bauer Bronco was top of the line in 96. You couldn't get a higher model...leather, lumbar support, tow package, OHC, exc. Now it is out of date, gets horrible gas mileage, has way less power then my buddies 2011 F150 with the 5.0, and is less comfortable. Its still a cool old truck, but the two don't even compare.
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Haha. Don't get me wrong, I really like the 6.7. My truck is paid for though and I don't wanna drop that kinda of money to upgrade any time soon.
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Haha. Don't get me wrong, I really like the 6.7. My truck is paid for though and I don't wanna drop that kinda of money to upgrade any time soon.
I hear ya. I'm content with my trucks. No power windows/lock, tilt wheel, bench seat, exc in the Ranger. Serves me fine.

Plus your diesel is still nice and pretty new.
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So you're upset because new diesels can do everything and more then the older diesels...and in the mean time have all the modern luxuries, get better gas mileage, burn cleaner, have more power, exc? Hmmm...

Top of the line trucks back in the day still had "all of the bells and whistles" for that era....and they seem out of date now.

My 96 Eddie Bauer Bronco was top of the line in 96. You couldn't get a higher model...leather, lumbar support, tow package, OHC, exc. Now it is out of date, gets horrible gas mileage, has way less power then my buddies 2011 F150 with the 5.0, and is less comfortable. Its still a cool old truck, but the two don't even compare.
I never said they couldn't perform as well as older diesels. Emissions equipment has killed the gas mileage benefits of a diesel. That and you can't hardly work on anything without a tech degree or a computer to hook up to

I've never been a fan of all the modern amenities of these new trucks. I don't need Sync, an LCD display, heated seats, backup cameras, and all that other stuff. It's a truck, as long as its comfortable and can do the work I need it to, I'm good.

I seem so old fashioned compared to most of my friends, but that's ok. Everyone can go ahead and spend 60K on a truck. I'll go find a truck for less than third the cost and be just as happy.
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gas prices have killed the benefits of diesel... anyone remember when diesel used to be cheaper than gasoline? you know, since it's a byproduct of making gasoline.
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gas prices have killed the benefits of diesel... anyone remember when diesel used to be cheaper than gasoline? you know, since it's a byproduct of making gasoline.
Also the fact that my dad's first Superduty got 21 MPG, now these trucks struggle for 16-17
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I don't doubt they drive nice. My gripe is with emissions equipment and all the bells and whistles that make it more of a luxury car than a truck
Haha. Spend time in both and you'll see. The 7.3 is seriously like a tractor lol. And they all get the same shitty fuel mileage. I've driven all of the Ford diesels and the 6.7 is the only one I liked.
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Haha. Spend time in both and you'll see. The 7.3 is seriously like a tractor lol. And they all get the same shitty fuel mileage. I've driven all of the Ford diesels and the 6.7 is the only one I liked.
I've spent the most time in a 7.3L, but I've ridden in almost every other model Superduty and I know what you mean about the differences in ride quality.

My dad's leaf sprung truck doesn't ride nearly as good as my brother in laws 05, and I'm sure the new ones are even better

But with fuel economy, my dad's first 7.3L was a 97 manual and he was averaging 21, his 99 averages about 18.

The following iterations of the Superduty haven't dropped significantly in fuel mileage, but a few MPG's do make a difference in the cost over a long period of time.

I will say though, I haven't had a chance to drive the 6.7L, (I've only sat in one) but I would like to, just to feel the difference.

Either way, new trucks are so expensive, I couldn't justify the cost
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My 6.0 rides just as good as the 6.7 I was driving. The interior in the 6.7 had way more little rattles than my 05 does and that truck has 13,500 miles on it. As nice as the 6.7 is on the inside I was a bit disappointed that the interior seemed a bit loose. For a sticker of $63k the interior should be every bit as tight and rattle free as my 05.

I know my 6.0 doesn't have near the emissions junk as the new ones but it has no problem getting 20-21 mpg on the highway.

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buy a cummins your gonna bust. the transmissions are junk.
???? I don't know what transmission your talking about cause thats a pretty big statement, but ill take the G56 in my 06 3500 over any of the big 3's line of trannies for a truck that's going to be doing towing.

Dodge has had some notoriously weak auto trannies I will def agree but if your going to be doing tons of towing, id certainly want a manual transmission rather than an auto anyways. The 2nd gen manual 4500 wasn't that bad especially with a few mods, and the NV5600 definitely wasn't a bad manual transmission either. Last time I checked dodge is still the last one that is allowing you to get a manual transmission and seem to do quite well with them.

I'm a ford guy all day, but saying all Cummins are bust because they all have junk transmissions is just absolutely false.

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gas prices have killed the benefits of diesel... anyone remember when diesel used to be cheaper than gasoline? you know, since it's a byproduct of making gasoline.
I remember this. it really wasnt that long ago. its a rippoff in all honesty.


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My 6.0 rides just as good as the 6.7 I was driving. The interior in the 6.7 had way more little rattles than my 05 does and that truck has 13,500 miles on it. As nice as the 6.7 is on the inside I was a bit disappointed that the interior seemed a bit loose. For a sticker of $63k the interior should be every bit as tight and rattle free as my 05.

I know my 6.0 doesn't have near the emissions junk as the new ones but it has no problem getting 20-21 mpg on the highway.
i get like 12 in the city.. maybe 15 on the highway. stupid dpf
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buy a cummins your gonna bust. the transmissions are junk.
if you take care of it then its not gonna be a problem plus id rather have a good reliable engine then a bad one. i would never own a powerstroke just because i worked on them for a while and they have way to many problems. i like ford trucks just not their diesels.
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My 6.0 rides just as good as the 6.7 I was driving. The interior in the 6.7 had way more little rattles than my 05 does and that truck has 13,500 miles on it. As nice as the 6.7 is on the inside I was a bit disappointed that the interior seemed a bit loose. For a sticker of $63k the interior should be every bit as tight and rattle free as my 05.

I know my 6.0 doesn't have near the emissions junk as the new ones but it has no problem getting 20-21 mpg on the highway.


Really? The 6.7 I rode in was getting 18mpg and was so smooth and quiet. it reminded me of my 6.4 minus the jet sound. lol

Id buy a 6.7 if the funds were there.

Any yes I realize this is an old thread but I wanted to read it because I thought you actually traded your 6.0!!
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Really? The 6.7 I rode in was getting 18mpg and was so smooth and quiet. it reminded me of my 6.4 minus the jet sound. lol

Id buy a 6.7 if the funds were there.

Any yes I realize this is an old thread but I wanted to read it because I thought you actually traded your 6.0!!
Well my truck wasn't as quiet lol, but the ride was just as good. I would still buy one too if I had a surplus of cash!

But, yeah, I still have my 6.0l and still love it. I just installed the Bulletproof Diesel 58v FICM yesterday!
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