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Old Feb 10, 2008
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upgrading to the d-44

i finally got all of the parts for my second sas this time with a d-44 well here is my parts list so far,pic's will be up in a day or two this all i could think of for now,i have been busy tearing the truck down for the second itme

78-79 hp d-44 out of an f-250
10 foot 1.5" dom bar
4 one ton chevy tie rod ends
mild to wild high steer two hole arms
new rotors,calipers,bearings,seals,brake pads,ball joints
2 drilled and taped flat top ford knuckles
4 weld in bungs for chevy one ton tie rod ends
4 5 on 5.5 wheels
4 bfg alterain 35x12.50-15 tires
2 wheel adapters 5 0n 4.5 to 5 on 5.5
i am not sure on the springs yet(but it will come soon)
 
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Why not just replace the rear axle with a FW 8.8 from a F150 to match the front axle?
 
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i have that option at the moment,i just have not made my mind up about it yet
 
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I'm putting a full width 8.8 in mine.

I used F-150 coil springs on mine. I have 4" lift springs from that year.

You need one more wheel for a spare. Just get a JY wheel and put a used tire of whatever diameter you're going to on it. I don't know how far away you are, but I have some 35" mud tires (used but still some tread) and you can have one for a spare free if you get out this way. I think I have an extra steel 5x5.5 wheel and you can have that too.

What steering box will you use? I've changed my mind about the full size ford boxes from that era -- too few of them around and finding them or getting rebuilt ones can be a pain. Something with more cores available would be a good choice.
 
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thanks for the great offer griggs,i currently have a yota box but my options are still in the air
 
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ok,pic time

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Looks good Walt, everything a little easier to remove this time?
 
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looks good walt.
 
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I'm taking it that you're not going to reuse the suspension components that you had on there before with the D30? Are you switching to leaf springs?
 
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Looks good Walt
 
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Hate to say it Walt but.... I told you so! haha. Just kidding man, good luck with the new axle. I wish i would have gone full width when I did mine.
 
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Originally Posted by natedog57
Looks good Walt, everything a little easier to remove this time?
lol,yeah you could say that,plus i have my little freind the cutting torch this time
 
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Hate to say it Walt but.... I told you so! haha. Just kidding man, good luck with the new axle. I wish i would have gone full width when I did mine.
yep,you sure did,i am thankfull for the change so soon,i just do not know about full width,i have an 8.8 rear axle out of a f-150 that is full width all i have to do is say the word and it is mine,but that is somthing i need to give some thought to.
 
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I'm taking it that you're not going to reuse the suspension components that you had on there before with the D30? Are you switching to leaf springs?
leaf springs?yes that is what i am looking to put under it,why the change?it does not matter if you put two days or if you put twenty years worth of work into a truck,to me if it does not drive right,or make me happy i will tear it apart and make it work the way i want it too,right is right and wrong is junk,that is how it is for me.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2008
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leaf springs?yes that is what i am looking to put under it,why the change?it does not matter if you put two days or if you put twenty years worth of work into a truck,to me if it does not drive right,or make me happy i will tear it apart and make it work the way i want it too,right is right and wrong is junk,that is how it is for me.
I wasn't being critical, just curious if you were gonna go with leafs. I doesn't matter either way, whatever you want to do. I personally think either setup is fine. Hope it turns out the way you want it.
 
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What kinda problems are you having that are making you think about the change to leafs?

Just curious.... not critical.
 
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he was havin bump steer... i dont think that is a good enough reason to go to leaf springs tho.

i say lower it more if you can get high steer...
 
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That shouldnt really change by going to leafs tho.

Walt, do you have any pics of your steering / panhard geometry?
 
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Yea i would say your angles are a bit steep. I'd try the high steer and maybe lower it down a bit. Try and get your angles as close to flat as possible. Dont give up on the links just yet...
 
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Originally Posted by zainyD
I wasn't being critical, just curious if you were gonna go with leafs. I doesn't matter either way, whatever you want to do. I personally think either setup is fine. Hope it turns out the way you want it.
i apoligize if i sounded harsh,i was just trying to explane my reasoning,sorry man
 
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What kinda problems are you having that are making you think about the change to leafs?

Just curious.... not critical.
i know no one is being critical,i am thankfull for everyones opinions on here,as for the steering issues death wobble yada,yada,yada,so i decided to go a different rout,hey man look at the current pic no body lift.
 

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Old Feb 12, 2008
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Yea i would say your angles are a bit steep. I'd try the high steer and maybe lower it down a bit. Try and get your angles as close to flat as possible. Dont give up on the links just yet...
Yea hes switching to a d44 so highsteer is now reasonable option. I agree with this. He already has all the link parts. He should buy the D44 TJ brackets and run what he has with highsteer, should fix his problem.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2008
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Originally Posted by mazda98
i know no one is being critical,and i hope that no one is mad at me,because i am thankfull for everyones opinions on here,as for the steering issues death wobble yada,yada,yada,so i decided to go a different rout,hey man look at the current pic no body lift.
Putting leafs on will not solve death wobble. Death wobble is usualy a symptom of back wheel bearings, out of round or unbalanced tires (yours look shot), bad tie rod / link ends. Have you ever trie borrowing a different set of tires?

I have run my d44 with high steer for years and never once had death wobble.

Im not hatin on leaf springs, what ever you decide to do Im sure it will work out. Just dont walk away from links for the wrong reason.
 
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