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2007 F150. Probably an insane idea....

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Old 11-19-2011
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2007 F150. Probably an insane idea....

Well I'm probably going to sound batshit crazy with this, but if it can be done with rangers, why Not an F150? A Manual Swap, I'm talking about. Into a 2007 4x4. 5.4L. Extended cab. Its either this, or i downgrade to a new 4 cylinder 2wd 5 speed ranger next year...either way I WILL be driving a standard by this time 2012.

Anyways. I know I need the pressure plate, clutch, hydraulic system, pedal cluster, shifter.

Some things I'd like to confirm if anyone knows...Will i need a different:

Middle seat/center console?
Throttle (the current is drive by wire...does it need to be converted to cable?)
Transfer case? I currently have a manual transfer case and I feel like it should bolt right onto a manual trans with the same linkages, No?


What trans will fit? Its damn near impossible to find a 4x4 5.4L trans of this generation...will a 4.6L fit? or an older gen 5.4 manual trans? I know the M5OD-R2 isn't the strongest but I only haul heavy loads a few times a year so i think it will hold up fine to daily driving.

Can I just reprogram the computer or maybe swap in one out of a manual 5.4...might be able to scratch one up online somewhere.

My drive shaft....Will i Need it custom fit or can i just find one out of a 5.4L standard XLT and bolt it in? same with the cross-member. Are the holes for it already in the frame or will I need to drill them in? Also...I think the pedal cluster and hydraulic system from a 4.2L will work fine, No? Thanks for any input...I'd like to make this project a reality
 

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Old 11-20-2011
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hell you could find a super duty with the 5.4 and stick...get the stuff out of that
 
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Don't they have the ZF though? I don't wanna lift my truck just to put a different tranny in it. Not really into Suspension mods. And I know the Zfs don't fit F150s bolt in.
 
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i know the powerstrokes have the ZF...idk about the 5.4 gasser
 
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Hmmm. i'll have to look into it real quick.

EDIT: apparently the M5OD-R2 was never even offered with the 5.4...strange, because I know i've seen it. On the previous gen it was, but I did see it.
 

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Originally Posted by djfllmn View Post
i know the powerstrokes have the ZF...idk about the 5.4 gasser
Yep, you could get a ZF6 manual transmission behind the 5.4L (and 6.8L) gas engine in a Super Duty through the 2010 model year. It's a beefy transmission, for sure. It's not smooth or even quick shifting, but it has an awesome "Low" gear with a great overdrive gear. I mean, the Low ratio is something like 5.79:1- If you put the transmission in low and the transfer case in low range and if you have a 4.10 axle ratio, you'd be looking at a crawl ratio of 64:1. That's something only a Jeep Wrangler Rubicon can beat if you're into wheeling specs...

The Zf6 is a a truck transmission in every sense of the word. Don't expect to pull great ETs or 1/4 mile times at the track with this tranny. But if you want stone reliability and, then look no further. Check my avatar for the shifting pattern.

Another cool fact: the Ford ZF6 even has a transmission cooler whereas the GM variants did not. The transmission cooler runs into the radiator, similar to that of an automatic.

I have no idea if this transmission would work in an F150 and it's floorpan though. I can tell you, however, that it does bolt up to the 3 valve 5.4L engine.
 
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I've heard of people putting this tranny behind the engine in an F150 with either a lift kit....or cutting the floor pan. I'd have to try and find out exaclty what the dimensions would be. I'd love to have the HD tranny...
 
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Originally Posted by pcollins View Post
Hmmm. i'll have to look into it real quick.

EDIT: apparently the M5OD-R2 was never even offered with the 5.4...strange, because I know i've seen it. On the previous gen it was, but I did see it.
Thats because the m50d won't stand up to the 5.4. A 3v 5.4 would eat trannys all day. Its really best suited to small v6's or 4 bangers
 
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I agree, no manual options really suck. Your best bet would be to start looking in junkyards. There were quite a few 5 speed 4.6l trucks out there. That could atleast get you a start with the pedal assembly and other odds and ends.
 
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Old 11-22-2011
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Originally Posted by rolsmojave3 View Post
I agree, no manual options really suck. Your best bet would be to start looking in junkyards. There were quite a few 5 speed 4.6l trucks out there. That could atleast get you a start with the pedal assembly and other odds and ends.
that was my thought...but if the 5.4 is really gonna eat M5s like that then I'd like to put in a ZF5 or 6...doesn't matter to me. I'm just wondering if the transfercase will bolt to the back of a ZF and if the hydraulics out of a 4.6 or 4.2 will work for the clutch. Or maybe the F250s hydrualics will all bolt in...I've got 48,500 miles on 'er now, waiting for the warranty to go before I tear into this, so I have time. Not alot of it but hopefully enough. I did 8k miles in 5 months.

The one reason I'd really like to make this all work is my only other option is a 4 banger 2wd stick ranger O_o
 
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I'm not sure a ZF would fit in the f150's doghouse. Go to a junkyard and start measuring and taking pictures. You more the likely could use the pedel assy. from another f150 and use the f250+ hydraulics. I think you'll also need the f250's Tcase.......

It's going to cost a lot of time and money.
 
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I think I read the transfercase I have now should bolt to the back of a zf5....Ima have to do some major research though. I have to find my closest pick n pull...my closest JY isn't a pick and pull...not allowed back there. So so far:

The ZF5 will bolt to the back of a 5.4.
I can get a pedal cluster from any 2004+ F150
Hydraulic system from a 250.

Just had another idea....Maybe I could get an M5OD-R2 out of a 4.6, and build it up with heavy duty gears/synchros? It would make the bolt in alot easier. Just a thought. Thanks for everyones input so far!
 
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I know of stock 5.4's that tear up ZF's.
 
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So weather I go ZF or M5 it'd probably be worth it in the long run to build it up anyways.
 
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