At first I could see how the LCD screen could be hard to use but after 30 minutes to playing with it and a weeks worth of driving its really a no brainer.

I use the "instant MPG" feature 99% of the time and I glance at it like you would a speedometer. Personally I dont have any distraction issues.

 

i know I watch my instant mpg on my ultragauge all the time. it helps me get better mileage just because I'm more aware of it

 

The grill can be changed yes. But I'd also have to change the bumper, I really want a color matched bumper. But I'm not a fan of how the new F150 changed, it lost much of it's aggressive look in favor of a more "Cadillac" look. Ford seemed to favor luxury when they designed this one and I moved away from the "truckiness" if that makes any sense.

I see this mostly in the exterior body lines

I used to want the Tundra until I saw the newer models. The reliability of Toyota's can't be argued but I think the truck is oddly proportioned.

I looked at the Titan, but haven't driven one yet.

I love the pre-11 Superduty's, but I really don't need a diesel, since I can use my dad's 99 7.3L anytime I need. I could always get the gas version, but the fuel bill will kill me

I see what you mean. After you get used to the menu's and what you like/want to see, you don't need to be changing it a lot.

 

i know i dont like the 07-current tundra either but the 00-06 body style is perfect

 

https://www.ranger-forums.com/miscellaneous-items-120/2006-f150-fx4-supercrew-leveled-geared-locked-35s-oregon-133403/

I know you saw this a while back, but just thought I'd bring it up. Great shape, well maintained, really nice truck. If you don't mind going used, I'd take a look at it again. even with the cost of shipping or going to pick it up it would obviously be much cheaper than new, leaving money for... another toy? a house? mods? just an idea, the warranty idea can be appealing plus there's no denying the sexiness of buying your own brand new truck. but if it were me I'd most likely be looking used.

 

Im not being biased with my response because i own a 97-03 F-150 but here it goes.

If you get an 04-08 F-150 with a 5.4, youre life will be consumed with maintaining the engine. Once you break all 8 plugs off and get them repaired, you will be just in time for cam phasers, solenoids and possibly heads if the cam bearings are worn.

Chevrolet has been making vehicles for 100 years, tires have been round since then, they still cant figure out round tires = round wheel wells.

The 2009+ f-150s are....whatever...i dont like them. I dont like the 6R80 transmission, and i dont like the crew cab trucks. The leaf springs are so soft, they will develop a characteristic drive-away shudder that can only be completely eliminated by installing Duff style bars or an add-a-leaf. In my opinion, they are designed for women and business men to drive (as im sitting in my cubicle typing this...lol). No truck needs Sync, heated seats, etc. You wont be able to afford to keep this truck wthout warranty coverage on it, no matter how much you are going to make. Once the 5/60 powertrain is up, you best buy the most expensive ESP coverage they have.

I have no complaints with my 2003 F-150. I hated that body style when they came out with it, until they came out with the 2004 and then the 2009. It magically became more appealing...haha

 

Supercharged 4.6L 04+. Thank me later.

 

What is the consensus on the 04-08 4.6L?

I've talked with a few 97-03 owners and they really like their 5.4L's. Are they different from the 04-08 5.4's?

 

I'm very seriously considering his truck since he's maintained it so well

 

I know it's not a fullsize but have you considered the new Tacoma's?

 

I wanted a Tacoma back in high school. I want a full size now for the extra space

 

I like the 4.6 but it's kind of a dog compared to the 5.4.

 

Just go get an old 60's-70's F-series with a 460 and a granny first five speed. You'll be able to tow anything and it'll have boat loads of torque to move your family's asses around town with a trailer attached to the back of it. 10 mpg fully loaded or empty. Heck, put a service body on and help those with broken cars on the side of the highway, and charge them for it. It won't get any worse gas mileage even though it's got a crap ton of tools in the back.

Just haul stuff as much as possible. Maybe start a small moving business on the side? Landscaping? Or tree stump pulling?

 

If you read my sig. I have two 77's, the 73-79's are my "expertise". If I can find a crew cab I can build a nice DD.

Granny 5-speed? Non existent in those trucks. Granny 4-speed is what you're thinking of

A 460 will get about 4 MPG. My 351M gets about 7-8. 10 MPG is possible if the engine is built right and you keep your foot out of it.

 

Now I get the supercharged comment lol

Any problems with it? Have you towed with it?

 

Nope no problems with it. Runs great. Only thing I have done is oil changes and new tires. 65K and running strong.

I was going to tow a 6x12 uhaul next week for a buddy but he had his wifes grandma do it so now I am not. So I have not towed yet.

 

My F150 was a 4.6l as well. Like Adam said, a dog but super reliable.

 

Granny 5 speed from a newer 460 equipped F-250 or 350 is what I was babbling about. I happen to know a guy that has a 460 and granny first 5 speed out of an early 90's F-250. Swap one in to get a tad bit more gas mileage on the highway. If you even care about that, lol. I'd just be happy to be able to push those crappy hybrids outta my way...

 

I love fords but in this case i'd get the chevy. I'd love to have a z92