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Ford Introduces Three New Light-Duty Engines for 2011 F-150

Ford Introduces Three New Light-Duty Engines for 2011 F-150 Pickup Trucks - PickupTrucks.com News


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The best-selling half-ton truck in the country is getting an all-new engine lineup for 2011. Ford is replacing its legacy two-valve and three-valve 4.6-liter V-8 twins and the venerable three-valve 5.4-liter V-8 in the F-150 with technically advanced six- and eight-cylinder engines that Ford says will be the most fuel-efficient in the industry. The truck maker is also shifting exclusively to six-speed automatic transmissions for every powertrain.

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I heard about this the other day too. The 6.2 is only in luxury trucks though from my understanding, King Ranch, Platinum and maybe an option in the lariets?

I would have loved to try out that new 6.2, I should have waited. :)
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Its tough to know what to be excited about more... The 3.5 or the 6.2. That eco-boost is sure to get some pretty nice fuel mileage.
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isn't it supposed to be a 3.7 not a 3.5?


EDIT: i saw that they plan to have two 3.? engines. a 3.5 and a 3.7. i was taken back when i saw that the 3.5 is gonna be making 400hp. wait, so why would i buy a 5.0 that makes less over a 3.5? that's some politics right there. why does a v6 make more hp then a v8? kinda like giving a v6 to the f-150 and a v8 to a ranger (far fetched but along those lines)


also, i came across this today: http://www.driving.ca/2011+Ford+engi...754/story.html

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So I can't have a clutch anymore? **** buying a new truck.
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You could barely have one in the 04 trucks, only in the XL and STX models IIRC.

Man i would love to have one of those ecoboosts
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Clutch was only a 4.2 V6 option in the 05 trucks (04 there was no V6 in the new body style for regular sale only for fleet sales, as you could still get the old body style as a "heritage" edition with a 4.2 and a manual).

Basically the problem is, manual transmissions that are built for pickup use (ie. pulling and hauling) are clunky and heavy feeling. The modern pickup buyer would not put up with it as they want it to shift like a car. Now that coupled with the fact that auto tranny's are leap years ahead of what they were 20 years ago, and the demand for having a 8000+ towing rating on even half ton trucks, the manual transmission for pickups is all but dead.

Now me personally, I think it would be awesome to get a "sport" pickup with a big V8 and a T-56, even if the tow rating has to be knocked in half.

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Yeah, But I'd never thought they get rid of it entirely..seeing how many XL f-150s there are out there in fleets with manuals.
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Yeah, But I'd never thought they get rid of it entirely..seeing how many XL f-150s there are out there in fleets with manuals.
Not many, I worked for a ford dealer as a delivery driver when they still had the v6 5 speed trucks. We used to be all manuals, but they were garbage tranny's. Notorious for bending shift forks. The company started buying only automatics and the tranny failure rate greatly went down. most standard fleet orders back then were 4x2 F-150 4.2 auto's with air conditiong, end of options (ford gives away air conditioning in MN through a credit and it is illegal in MN for an employer not to have A/C in a fleet vehicle)


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What I would like even better is the SelectShift transmission. 11,300lbs tow rating now
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I may have to finally test drive new f150s when the new engines are out. lol
I'm really not in the market for a new truck, but I would be interested to check out the new engine/tranny combos.
I'm still a little skeptical of the twin turbo v6 in a truck, but with two turbos it ought to get on the boost quickly with the smaller turbo. Should be interesting. I'm glad to see them stepping up the game and offering more poweful engines though.
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Another thing I would like to see is the hd payload package available with crew cab, short bed 4x4 trucks, although it would probably cut into super duty sales more.
All the new trucks are just getting so freakin expensive.
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It sounds like in the 6.2 theres alot more power to be had out of them, they will up the power number every year like they did with the 5.4's.
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Price will be the big factor, I think new pickups are insane. I was looking at 2010 Rams the other day (what can I say, I fell in love with them) and the dealer could do better for me on an F-150 with arguably the same options. Both were still 42K stickers! That was loaded super duty territoty whenin 2004. I never got to negotiations, but he said they had more wiggle room with Fords. I just don't like 09+ F-150's though.

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It sounds like in the 6.2 theres alot more power to be had out of them, they will up the power number every year like they did with the 5.4's.
Same could likely be said about the ecoboost, and the 5.0L.
Although being that the 5.0L is a car engine and is replacing the 4.6L, I wouldn't want it. Sounds like the torque is moved up quite a bit in the RPMs.
I still can't imagine what idiot would want an NA v6 in an F150, but whatever. The 4.6L was a slug, just imagine how the V6 will be. lol
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Actually, You'd be surprised. They had their place. Especially, in a 4X2 reg cab long bed, that is used for work, it was more than adequite. I actually preferred it to the one truck we had in the fleet that had a 4.6 (this was back in 98-04). They had more than enought power to get through traffic, they got decent gas mileage, and they were pretty reliable. I personally put about 300K miles on the 4.2 combined over the years I worked there and never had an engine problem.

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My wife's f150 has the 4.2 and its the fastest truck that we own!
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I wouldn't be that surprised, I have driven a lot of them. lol
I sold Fords in 03/04, so have plenty of time behind the wheel. They work, and I guess in a 4x2 reg cab they would be alright as a parts truck or something. Although the 4.2L with a manual trans wasn't all that bad, seems like it had decent torque. I don't remember numbers off hand but I would be surprised if the smaller v6 in the heavier new F150 is even as good as the 4.2 in the older body style. But I could be wrong, and a company who is paying for it as a delivery truck probably wouldn't care.
It's just not something I would ever choose to drive. Gotta do what the consumers want though. It's just too bad that also means dumping any possibility of manual transmissions because most americans are too stupid to know how to drive one. haha
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My wife's f150 has the 4.2 and its the fastest truck that we own!
^ That's a little sad!
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Yeah I know. Her truck will blow the doors off of my f150. Hers is much smaller and lighter though. It is a manual tranny too which helps. Not a bad truck at all that 4.2 has been super reliable so far.
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Whats she get for mileage? I was remembering around 20 MPG

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It gets about 18 all city driving.
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I could settle for the Coyote V8 or the Ecoboost in a reg cab sleeper. The 3.7 alone has about the same hp as the 5.4!!
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i like the new motor options and i understand what they are doing with the V6 engines trying to get the mileage and such, but while the numbers are impressive i still am curious to see how they tow. i know the torque numbers are close to the older V8's but the peak torque is made alot higher in the RPM range than the V8's so unless the new trans is built to take advantage of that i still dont think even the 5.0 will pull better than the old 5.4 3V. the 6.2 on the other hand will blow it out of the water.
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I agree, numbers are one thing but how they actually drive in real-world is another.
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