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Bluebook/value questions

If someone were to advertise their vehicle and it has a brand new engine in it, what mileage do you use to figure out it's worth?? Body/frame mileage or engine mileage?? The entire drivetrain has less than 20k on it. In the ad and to the prospective buyers, of course I'll say the miles on the truck and the miles on the engine. That's stupid not to mention it.


Just curious if anyone knows anything about this department on newer vehicles.


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selling your ranger, shane?
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maybe run it with the whole truck mileage then the engine/drivetrain mileage and then average the 2 ?
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Dislike. But yeah just say what year truck the engine came out of. The mileage on it. And the mileage on your body and frame. I would use the current engine's mileage. Idk if averaging would be the right way.
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If you are trying to figure out book value, use the current odometer mileage. If you want real life value, understand that the book price is only a guide, and usually is much higher than the price you can sell the vehicle for. Be sure to tell prospective buyers what has been done to maintain and update the vehicle.
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id go with nada personally they reflect a more accurate market value. search with the full mileage on the body then throw an extra couple hundred on if you feel like its not the value of your truck, and keeping in mind you'll be low-balled down to the final selling price
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If you are trying to figure out book value, use the current odometer mileage. If you want real life value, understand that the book price is only a guide, and usually is much higher than the price you can sell the vehicle for. Be sure to tell prospective buyers what has been done to maintain and update the vehicle.
yeah....I'm very well understanding of this. Bought the truck with a 16k bluebook for 10k at the dealer. lol. I just sorta find it a little hard to believe that I coulda left the timing chain clankin' beat up motor in it and asked the same price.
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yeah....I'm very well understanding of this. Bought the truck with a 16k bluebook for 10k at the dealer. lol. I just sorta find it a little hard to believe that I coulda left the timing chain clankin' beat up motor in it and asked the same price.
I figured you knew, but told anyway.

The only problem is that most buyers will figure that the vehicle wasn’t maintained properly if the engine was replaced. Like I said, I’d just explain to them why it was replaced. They might understand or they might be turned away by it figuring that it will happen again. You never know about people.
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The only problem is that most buyers will figure that the vehicle wasn’t maintained properly if the engine was replaced.
This.


If I was looking and say that the engine and everything was replaced I would be worried about what the truck has been through, how well the work was done, etc. Not to mention the miles on everything else.
I know that sounds discouraging, but that's just how I would think if I scanned across an add, so be descriptive IMO.
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Are you going to find a newer ranger?
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If I was looking and say that the engine and everything was replaced I would be worried about what the truck has been through, how well the work was done, etc. Not to mention the miles on everything else.
I know that sounds discouraging, but that's just how I would think if I scanned across an add, so be descriptive IMO.
I think if you have a high mileage truck with a drivetrain swap/rebuild I would say add $500 to the normal selling price and thats about what its worth. If you have a mid to lower mileage truck with a lower mileage motor swap I'd say thats a blow to the selling price. To me I'd much rather have a 75K truck than a 100k truck with a rebuilt motor. (Thats just me though). I thought long and hard about this when I found an 05 Super Cab 4x4 F150 with 83K on it and a blown engine. My local salvage yard had a 5.4 out of an 06 that was T-boned with 55K on it for $650. I thought about just buying the truck and swapping the motor in but I knew it would put a hurting on the value of the truck so I decided to pass. I'm damn glad I did though cause I love my FX4.
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Milage in ad should match odometer or many will shy off. I check Edmonds, NADA, and Kelly blue book. Use the private party sale number & be conservative when you evaluate condition & you should arrive at a reasonable "taking" price. Raise the asking price a bit above "taking" price to provide some room to negotiate.

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It also depends on your paperwork. If you had a shop do the swap you need all the receipts and EVERYTHING.

If you did it the buyer is trusting that a home garage mechanic put this engine in and installed it properly. That trust is hard to get.
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Shane the fact that the engine was replaced is never really a good sign. It might be ok if it were under warranty and done by a Ford shop, but it won't ever be a positive.
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So are you selling the ranger for a toyota?
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The engine replacement would definitely turn me away. You never know about people though, I think book value would be a fine starting point.
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Shane the fact that the engine was replaced is never really a good sign. It might be ok if it were under warranty and done by a Ford shop, but it won't ever be a positive.
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The engine replacement would definitely turn me away. You never know about people though, I think book value would be a fine starting point.

Yeah.... Just sucks fixing ford's factory design eff-up's doesn't gain me any....actually loses me some. I actually made it WAY more reliable, brand new, yet I get the pineapple shoved up backwards. It's BS but I suppose I gotta live with it.






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Yeah.... Just sucks fixing ford's factory design eff-up's doesn't gain me any....actually loses me some. I actually made it WAY more reliable, brand new, yet I get the pineapple shoved up backwards. It's BS but I suppose I gotta live with it.






Thanks for all the input everyone.
Some of it will be the quality of your work and if you have pics during the swap that'll definitely help. I actually traded my Ranger to a guy with an F150 that was needing to downsize. I think he was a little unsure of owning a modded truck (the twin stick swap) until I showed him all the pics I had of the parts and the swap. After that he had no problem making a deal.
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Some of it will be the quality of your work and if you have pics during the swap that'll definitely help. I actually traded my Ranger to a guy with an F150 that was needing to downsize. I think he was a little unsure of owning a modded truck (the twin stick swap) until I showed him all the pics I had of the parts and the swap. After that he had no problem making a deal.
Yeah...I've got photographic record as well as log-book record and reciepts of everything important done do the truck(engine/trans/gears/etc). Not to boast my skills or whatever, but the truck is actually BETTER than it came off the showroom floor. The engine harness is routed better than stock and looks a crap ton better as well.

It really does come down to the buyer. If I were a buyer again, you better believe I'd be researching the options and downfalls of the type of rig I'm looking at. I still say that if I knew what I know now back then, I'd be in an OHV '00 and just front end swapped it. If I were to sell it, you better believe I'd be disclosing everything and heck, I'd even give him an external harddrive full of it's progress pics. lol.
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You will never get what you put into it, how come you are hating on your truck? Why not just sas swap it?
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seriously whats going on with your truck????? haha. wanna trade to a super sweet 2wd???
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You will never get what you put into it, how come you are hating on your truck? Why not just sas swap it?
I'm not hating on my truck at all....just looking at it as a posession rather than having the emotional attachemnt to it. As for SAS, I simply don't need it for what I do with it. It's too nice to wheel it like I used to...and it gets expensive. Lingering in the back of my mind constantly is my want for a wheeler and this truck is just too nice to continue to dump money into. I want to find my way into a reg cab/long bed or something similar to my all my buddy's SAS'd toyota's. Something I can build right and beat the snot out of and not care about an effed up bodypanel.

Went wheelin' again this week with an old friend in his truck and it really got me thinking just how much I miss not caring about the truck's prettiness. And it's an underpowered 4cyl tacoma with 5.13/.29's and 35's and a narrowed HPd44.
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If it's a 4banger, it needs 5.13's/5.29's to be driveable on the street. I'd be happy with that truck....but I'd rather build my own myself. Driving that taco with it's more modern interior and exterior, makes me want a taco to build.

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if you do get a taco i will hook you up with my friend at work! he is obsessed him and his roomate have a fleet lol. he knows where a lot of good trucks for sale are too!

ya ever thought of like an old comanche?
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