the whole thing started from him trying to install my jet performance module on the back of his ecu. and when he tried to start it, the alternator started to click (same as mine). so he replaced his battery to upgrade to an optimum (same as mine) and it wanted to turn over. the way the chip works is by changing the timing of the sparks and what-not. so it HAS to be electrically- thus the anti-theft light. it has nothing to do with the engine locking up, UNLESS the truck has a "self-destruct" mechanism.

 

if it has a self destruct mechanism.. then f*ck my life lol but thanks ricky let me know if you think of anything..right now its just gonna chill in the parking lot unless there are any other ideas you guys can come up with that i can check myself.

 

you took the chip off right? its gone?

with a chip it is extremely easy to burn up your pcm.

if you only have 1 key and that last key took a crap they are going to charge a crap load to get your pats working again, it will have to reprogrammed. it says in the book to always have two keys that way if one fails you have a backup.

I lost one and went to get another and it was 100 bucks for a new key and reprogram.

so now it does not turn over at all? i would find a junk yard for an 02 pcm, not sure if you can swap them out but that would be something to try. id say the pcm is hosed.

how would the engine lock up? you never heard any noises right?

 

the chip is off and the truck I bought at the auction and came with only one key. The truck wants to turn over, but the anti theft system which I think it is, is stopping it. All the lights, radio, dash work just fine it just wont let me start. It sounds like the engine is stuck when i try to start it.

 

im not good with part names and what they look like, can ya give me a hint on what the harmonic balancer looks like lol?

 

The PATS trick only works if you have the two original keys. The procedure just lets you use more keys after you have done the procedure to make them "friendly" keys. If he only has one original key then it has to be reprogrammed at the dealer.

 

Sorry for the big pic.

******This is not your engine, It's just a picture of an engine.*********

See that big black thing in the front of the engine with all the belts going to it? Well that is the crank pulley/harmonic balancer. There is a big bolt in the center. Take a breaker bar and socket and spin it. If it moves then your engine is not locked up. You will be able to turn the engine with no problem with a big enough bar.

 

This is on an 05 right? I thought this is the only year Ranger that DOESN'T have a pats system. I know my 05 just has a normal key (no chip).

 

the theft system no start is a no fuel on start. because of the fuel return system the newer rangers use there isnt enough fuel present to start without turning on the pump. the pump turns on once the key hits the ON position and the theft system has been turned off. ever notice why your engine takes a second to start? if the theft system is locked on you will not have enough fuel to start the truck, period. IF there is a bad connecting rod it does NOT need to have a full tear down of the motor. all you do is pull the oil pan. the crank, rods, pistons, bearings are all visible. anyone who tells you that they have to pull the motor completely apart is dumb. if you get power to the lights, radio and such when you insert your key than you are able to use the OBD2 scan tool to check for problems. ford has a 100+ point diagnostic check points. anyone with a scanner can see what their car is doing. anyone with a good scanner can make the car do what they want (SNAPON MODIS FTW). to conclude, that TECH, not the dealership, is wrong. go to autozone and borrow an obd2 scanner. its free. hook it up and post the codes on here and i can help you a little more.

steve
Ford F.A.C.T. certified. UTI grad, ASE engine builder

 

Sounds fishy to me, it deosnt take 2 weeks for water to get from the puddle you went through to the piston. and steve is correct if the ign turns on then you can talk to the truck and if you caint talk to the truck then he needs to diag that.. hes hoping you will get scared off by the price and he wont have to diag your electrical problem.

at least from here where i sit thats what it sounds like

JOSH

 

I am going with zack and saying your PCM is fried.

Make sure you burn that JET chip and never see it again.

I'm willing to bet your PCM is burned and along with that your PATS is thinking someone tried to hotwire

 

My truck is an 02, and should I go borrow a scanner to check it out? will it even let me get any codes if the computer is fried?

 

turn the key to run. the scanner will still pull codes with the engine not running. its worth a shot. your motor more than likely is not messed up. have you tested your starter?

(id rather use a snap on brick than a modis)

 

Try and get your hands on a "GOOD" reader (snap-on, mac, etc), and turn the key to run, and pull the codes. Thats the only way you will really know whats going on.

Hopefully you can do that, and let us all know what the codes are and we can go from there.

 

the modis is made by snapon. it does everything you can think of and then some.

 

but for the money it should come with its own set of *****

 

for 6K$ you could swap in a better engine